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[Dill]

(12-22-2023, 04:18 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Second, you do think the IDF kills civilians intentionally, more of your false equivalency.  This mother understands what Dill does not, that it is impossible to distinguish between a civilian and a terrorist when the terrorists intentional mingle with the civilian population while wearing civilian attire. 

Yes, we know you think the IDF intentionally kills civilians.  You consistently ignore why this occurs, and why Hamas engineers its occurrence at every opportunity.  To actually do so would destroy your ability to equate Hamas and the IDF as equally bad faith actors, or even remotely equivalent, and we know you're not going to let that happen.

I'm a little late getting back to this, but I have a couple of points worth making:

1. Though you may not see that far down the line, your mention-of-IDF-war-crimes-equates-them-with-Hamas formula paints you into a corner.

2. It is predicated on the claim the IDF does not intentionally kill civilians. But it has a history of doing that, and of being accused of doing so by reputable
    witnesses and organizations--including Israeli human rights organizations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes
    In the current conflict, we already see "allegations" of summary execution coming in which align with the aforementioned history. 
    E.g. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-grandfather-describes-killing-his-family-by-israeli-soldiers-2023-12-18/  and 
    https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/un-human-rights-office-opt-unlawful-killings-gaza-city

3. Your framing of civilian deaths as "engineered" by Hamas or something which only occurs when IDF soldiers "mistake" civilians for combatants does not 
    explain or legitimate the execution of surrendered civilians and combatants. Hamas cannot be the "cause" of a record of war crimes going back over 70 
    years. Attributing reports of war crimes to "Hamas propaganda" is the job of IDF spokespersons, but few international organizations will go along with it. 
    Many Israeli journalists will not either.

4. By claiming that mention-of-IDF-war-crimes-equates-them-with-Hamas on the assumption that they don't commit war crimes, you've set up a 
    conditional argument (modus ponens) under which the IDF must NECESSARILY be equated with Hamas if it comes out that the IDF does commit war 
    crimes.