Biden and Trump at the border

[Belsnickel]

(03-12-2024, 11:34 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: No, I thought the R talking point originally was them telling Biden that HE can start doing something about Immigration and then they will help with Legislation. but as usual its devolved into something else.

Congress wouldn't give Trump money either, but he found a way to get some until they actually did allocate him some.

What tools are more effective than a wall atm?
Operation Lone Star is having some nice results DESPITE Biden's continuous interference.

Yet the GOP has decided to not pass legislation to help the issue, because...?

And I am not going to rehash the wall conversations. We have discussed those ad nauseum. The tl;dr is that we have walls in more population dense areas because that is where they make a difference, but the areas of the border where there are no walls they are ineffective because they can be more easily overcome and because response times are too long.

Lastly, I would not call the results of OLS "nice." The overstepping onto federal authority, the humanitarian concerns, and of course the bussing situations where they have straight up lied to migrants and sent them off to places without arrangements being made in what is really a form of human trafficking for the benefit of a political stunt.

(03-12-2024, 11:45 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Well, there are things he can, and could, do.  But I think the biggest issue is that the border has been utterly unimportant to Biden until, gasp, election year.  Politics as usual?  You could make the argument, but that doesn't excuse it.

I would disagree. He had to end the Title 42 policies because of the status of the pandemic. With that being the case he worked hard to try to put other measures in place to prevent the issues they knew were coming. There is a lot of talk about Biden ignoring the border but that hasn't been the reality. People do not understand the current policies.