Columbia Leaders Grilled at Antisemitism Hearing

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(05-02-2024, 07:40 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Oh man, my bad.  I actually thought otherwise when you typed this.
Oops.
There are fringe elements in every government.  Not hard to dig up an embarrassing example of one regardless of the topic.
Yes, not plenty, which is what you said.
I already explained why. 

I'm happy if you consider the term "plenty" cannot apply to Israel politicians in general, but can to the right wing politicians--i.e., the current governing coalition.

So now the question is not only whether there are "plenty," or a "not inconsiderable number," but whether they are "fringe."

Are a finance minister and deputy speaker  leading the current ruling coalition in the Knesset fringe elements?

What about a former Public Diplomacy minister.  https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-gaza-genocide
Knesset member and former Public Diplomacy Minister Galit Distal Atbaryan posted on Facebook that Israeli officials must invest all their energy "in one thing: erasing all of Gaza from the face of the Earth."
"That the brave monsters will fly to the southern fence and enter Egyptian territory," Atbaryan continued, an apparent reference to Israel's reported plan to permanently expel Palestinians who survive the assault to Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, imposing a "second Nakba" on the population. "Or let them die... Gaza needs to be wiped out."
"Revengeful and vicious IDF is required here," she continued. "Anything less than that is immoral."

What about Likkud member Tally Gotliv?
Straight genocidal talk! Israeli Knesset members call for starving and destroying all Gazans
https://english.ahram.org.eg/News/515128.aspx

And this is not recent. What about the Justice minister Netanyahu appointed back in 2015?
Israeli MP Ayelet Shaked who called for genocide of Palestinians named Justice Minister
https://www.dailysabah.com/mideast/2015/05/08/israeli-mp-ayelet-shaked-who-called-for-genocide-of-palestinians-named-justice-minister

If I read Hebrew, I could add more examples from the current Prime Ministers CABINET to demonstrate this is not a fringe problem.

(05-02-2024, 07:40 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I already explained why.  From the Oxford dictionary. gen·o·cide /ˈjenəˌsīd/noun
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
Lots of hyperbolic bullshit in the UN "definition", as is usual for that useless organ.  Stick to the actual definition.

Simply calling a definition "inaccurate" is not an explanation, especially when that definition is the world standard, tailored right after WWI
to fit the incredible variety of Axis crimes, and updated after the Rwandan and Yugoslav civil wars.

So the world agrees: he UN definition IS the "actual definition," fully and legally. 
You didn't know that, and are clearly are unaware of how the UN arrived at that definition, and why it includes "hyperbolic bullshit." 

From the real Oxford English Dictionary  https://www.oed.com/dictionary/genocide_n?tab=meaning_and_use#3073685
Genocide was affirmed as a crime under international law in 1946, under Resolution 96 of the United Nations General Assembly.

The United Nations' Genocide Convention, adopted in 1948, defines genocide as any of five ‘acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.’

And that is the definition the US, the UN the ICJ will be using to assess the situation in Gaza.
The fullest single page explication here on the UN website.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml