What does a successful government look like?

[Vlad]

(03-05-2016, 12:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: Which men do you think they referred to?

You're trying to pick a fight where there is none.

Men, people, citizens, whatever you want to call them, who held other men, people, in bondage contradicts or goes against the belief expressed in the Decl. of Indep. that all men are created equal.
Was that better?

It's safe to assume Pat knew what I was talking about. I require more clarity on why he thinks the establishment of a perfect government led to the Civil War.