Do we live in a Rape Culture?

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(05-07-2016, 12:51 PM)xxlt Wrote: Here's another straw man for you:

http://journalstar.com/news/local/911/man-convicted-of-raping-woman-in-lincoln-alley-gets-/article_c232802b-4865-5cc5-ad7c-dfb64e8eceb5.html

So, for the record, we have heard that the man was drunk also is a defense. I posted two links with legal opinions saying, no it is not.

We have heard there is not a court in America that would convict a guy for having sex with a drunk participant. The link above, which took about 3 seconds to find, shows there is a court that would and did, and I am quite sure there are others.

We have heard that a drunk woman can willingly consent. I posted a three year old link stating that "the law is evolving" on this point and that "it is difficult to generalize" because "rape laws are different from state to state."

So, all the foolish arguments presented to show how we don't live in a rape culture which screamed "I am the product of a rape culture, and if you don't believe me just listen to this," have been shown to be in error. He was drunk so he is innocent - wrong. No court would convict if she was drunk and conscious and you had sex with her - wrong. It is black and white and women have the upper hand - wrong: the laws vary from state to state. It is easy to answer questions in a rape case - wrong: it is difficult to generalize which means SPECIFIC FACTS in a case matter.

Perry Cox said it best. To those whose arguments and assumptions have been shown to be wrong, I say: wrong wrong wrong wrong, wrong wrong wrong wrong: you're wrong.

Call it a straw man, a red herring, a pink elephant, whatever Fonzie, just don't say I was wrrrrrr....

Seems you and Fred are at odds, as he said if both parties are too drunk to consent then no rape occurred.