Do we live in a Rape Culture?

[Brownshoe]

(05-09-2016, 11:08 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Impaired or lost, if a person is willing to do something under the influence of alcohol that they would not do sober, they are at a point which they are unable to give consent. That is why it is irrelevant. And yes, there is a reason the law in most places is on your side. The biggest is the inability to have a concrete basis of measurement for these things, and the other is because of the rape culture that exists and permeates our justice system.

I'm not going to bother continuing trying to convince you. If you want to try to keep justifying your position to others to make you feel better about yourself, feel free. I will continue to feel that anyone that acts on a yes from an intoxicated partner is doing so without actual consent. Never had sex while intoxicated or with someone who was, and never will.


No, it didn't mean that. I am not even sure how you came to that conclusion.

Where is the law in your side anywhere? With your logic you could argue that one glass of whine you're not able to consent because you're impaired. You not sleeping for a day is equivalent to drinking a glass of whine, so someone could argue you if someone stays up for a day that they couldn't consent. Its a very silly logic. People still have their agency. People can still say no if they don't want too. There's a reason why it's not rape if they consent and their drunk... Just like that prosecutor said "Drunken consent is still consent".