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(05-11-2016, 10:54 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: Readign your post you are playing the victim card even  now drinking at 15 is a bad path

i can show you many roads where its dark narrow with a ton of trees near by....
Pitch black with no speeding laws and no chance of being caught by cops?  Also, as windy and curvy?  Also, keep in mind that the roads weren't much wider than the car.  
(05-11-2016, 11:16 AM)michaelsean Wrote: There are tens of thousands of crashes a year involving alcohol that don't happen in cemeteries. 

And you think part of their liability arises from having gravestones?  IN A CEMETERY?
Just saying that the gravestones played a part.  Also, above about no other cars or police, we wouldn't have wrecked if we weren't speeding, and we wouldn't have been speeding if we hadn't been back there, which the gates should have been locked.

There's a reason why the speed limit is only like 5 mph.

The caretaker's son had driven back there and wrecked when he wasn't even drinking and it wasn't even at night, so don't you think that also contributed to the fact that that kind of reckless behavior was tolerated back there, as well proving how dangerous it was to drive back there? 
(05-11-2016, 12:10 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Brad, a lot of years have passed since your accident. You're an adult now and have been for awhile. Maybe it's time you just said "You know what...no one held a gun to my head and made me go drink and party in a cemetery. No one forced me to take part in anything that the caretaker was doing. And, no one made me get in the car that eventually wrecked. Even though I was a teenager and made poor decisions...it was still ME that made those decisions". 

What I'm getting at brother, is that it's probably way past time to just accept your own (and pretty significant) responsibility. While others may have 'promoted an environment' that permitted these things to go on, you kept returning to that environment of your own accord. It's true that teenagers do stupid things and and sometimes make poor decisions. But, when those decisions lead to something bad happening (in a situation that YOU put yourself in)...then eventually you're going to have to own those bad decisions and poor choices.

I'm not condemning you Brad, just trying to offer some advice. Just accept the fact that you are as much to blame as anyone for what happened. If you've been through the courts and ended up with some cash, then I say you did OK. The best thing you can do is quit rehashing the past and just concentrate on much more productive uses of your time and energy...like your public speaking and trying to get other kids to not make those same bad choices. ThumbsUp
I'm a public "speaker" with everything that happened and I'm completely over it, but we made poor decisions because he allowed us to.

If he had locked the cemetery, we wouldn't have driven (under a mile from the driver's street to the cemetery), and, if he didn't openly allow people to drink, the driver wouldn't have been able to consume more alcohol there that made him drunk enough to want to speed.
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