05-29-2016, 02:17 AM
(05-28-2016, 11:30 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: 1. Maybe it's just me, but I think comparing a 2nd round pick with a resume like Dalton's to a 5th round pick who has accomplished zilch at the NFL level is very disrespectful of Dalton and his accomplishments. Any time you take a stance that goes against the consensus and you back it only with biased speculation and no facts to support your argument, that's the definition of asinine to me. I at least try to back my claims with evidence.
2. Right. You're not saying Dalton is on McCarron's level now, just that he will - rather easily - surpass the level of a QB who was in the MVP discussion for 12 weeks and posted an all-time Bengals record 106.2 passer rating. Okey-doke.
3. Fair enough, but if you're going to make such bold claims with little to no evidence to back that claim, expect to get called out.
4. I count 9 games where Dalton was a key factor in us winning. Where he managed to lead a very good offense despite an almost complete lack of receiving talent around him. He posted an 88.0 rating in these 10 games. Completed 67% of his throws. Averaged 7.66 YPA. Amazing numbers considering Sanu was his #1 target for 5 games and we were trying guys like Greg Little.
The fact that you just said that McCarron could easily get beyond Dalton's current level is by far the most ridiculous thing you've said though. I honestly can't take you seriously now. You've made your anti-Dalton bias abundantly clear, and your optimism regarding McCarron is through the roof...with no evidence to support it. Again, the kid has won 2 games - against a pair of 5-11 teams. Btw, if you classify both McC and Dalton as game managers, what makes you think McC will "easily" surpass Dalton's current level (which you seem to begrudgingly admit is not as a game manager)?
1. Ok. What round these guys were drafted in does not equate to an on field accomplishment. As for Daltons resume, outside of 2015's run it's not all that special. I'm still waiting on your evidence that Dalton was anything more than a game manager in 2014.
2. Actually, what I said is that he COULD if given the opportunity. But honestly, that opportunity is highly unlikely to come, so yes it is speculation based on my personal opinion.
3. Call me out as you wish. I gave an opinion. This is a message board not a court of law.
4. Which 9 games ?...How was Andy a key factor in these 9 games that you speak of ?
I see 6 wins against sub .500 teams. Another win against Ryan Mallett. And another where Peyton Manning threw 4 INTs..All bigger factors than what was contributed by Mr. Dalton.
Again, I said he COULD rise to or surpass Dalton's level IF given the opportunity. I feel strongly that he could, but I don't claim it as a certainty or a fact. As to why I believe what I have stated, It is based on what I have seen in both players games. Yes I speculate that Mccarron could develop into a very similar player as Dalton, with the difference being that I see more poise in AJ when things get tough. I admit it's a bold position to take so early in AJs career, and Andy could kill it next year and win the Super Bowl. Good. I hope he does. But so far he has shown himself to be a post season flop 4 times in 4 tries so forgive me if I speculate about what COULD be.
