06-06-2016, 12:42 PM
(06-06-2016, 09:16 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: If I can convince a jury that I had a reasonable fear of an imminent threat of force that accompanied those words, then, yes, it is justified.
I get your point but convincing a jury doesn't really justify anything, it merely renders you not legally liable. In such an instance you're going to need a lot more than actual words though, the circumstances are going to have to warrant a reasonable fear for your safety. Just to clarify, you're not making this argument for those rioters are you?
Quote:I understand where this is getting muddled up. I never suggested that anyone who was attacked at the Trump rally acted in a manner that warranted violence. I concurrently suggested that the attacks were unprovoked while also stating I disagreed with the notion that one's words and actions can't ever justify assault. It's odd that I have to keep saying this, but I believe numerous people are trying to lump my position in with another poster's.
You just threw the word actions in there. I don't think anyone would argue that the actions of another couldn't justify physical force against them.
Quote:I certainly agree that it is ironic that the liberals are the ones getting upset at speech. I certainly do not agree with violence nor do I believe that anything stated warranted these unprovoked attacks. I find it out of character for you to suggest that I do as I have always found your posts grounded in reason and logic.
If you feel attacked in this thread I honestly apologize. Disagreement does not have to be coupled with disdain. You are also likely correct that you've been lumped in with others in this thread.
Quote:It's not contradictory to say that Trump has been irresponsible in advocating for violence while also holding the opinion that he is free to voice any and all of the opinions he has voiced.
Not contradictory but it is exculpatory. The violence from these morons should be condemned, period, with no codicils. Like I said many posts ago, any extremist group should be able to march in any area without violence being done to them. Extreme views are not a license for physical battery against their holders.
