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German recognition of Armentian genocide
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(06-10-2016, 03:24 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Oh I am well aware of the tension between east and west.    But the initial crusade was yes going against the Turks. Jerusalem was part of the plan and there never would be a need to fight had Muslims not been so violent.   I left the Turks out because I didn't want to write a book.    Too much of a Hassle on my phone

Actually, Jerusalem wasn't part of the initial plan. The initial plan was to show that Pope Urban II was a great guy by getting troops to volunteer to go fight for the Byzantines, thus mending the rift between the two churches and bringing them back into the Pope's fold. He got more than he bargained for. He had no idea of the numbers of younger princes and nobles with little inheritance and seeking a kingdom of their own, as well as peasants seeking to strike it rich and get ahead in life. The idea of Jerusalem as an ultimate target developed later to focus the mob in a direction. And it was initially a mob. Urban had no idea that economically frustrated peasants would go off the rail before they even got to the middle east and start massacring Jews in Germany. The nobles came and eventually gave the mob a direction. The selection of Jerusalem as an ultimate goal further refined the direction.

And BTW - The Muslims were no more violent than the Christians.
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RE: German recognition of Armentian genocide - Bengalzona - 06-10-2016, 08:07 PM

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