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NC's new proposed gun law
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(06-24-2016, 12:20 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Transport and carry are very different concepts and the law in every state already makes such a distinction.  Your restriction is quite honestly not necessary.

(06-24-2016, 01:09 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I will defer to your expertise; however, I would not want untrained folks driving around with weapons in their car

Figured I would expand on this a bit. As someone with a concealed carry permit I am able to carry my pistol any way I damn well please in my car in Virginia. Prior to 2010, without a concealed carry permit, I would have been required to keep the pistol and ammunition separate with the pistol locked up and/or out of reach. This is no longer the law, though, thanks to NRA lobbying.

(06-24-2016, 01:49 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Absolutely, but it's not an argument, it's hard, and irrefutable fact.  Violent crime has dropped every year since 1993.  Gun ownership has surged in the past ten years.  There has been zero correlation between legal gun ownership and an increase in violent crime.  The vast majority of homicides in this country are committed in inner city areas and involve criminal on criminal violence. I apologize for posting no corroborating links or tables, but it's late, I'm tired and I have zero fear of someone coming along and contradicting me with the same.

Most definitely.  If it wasn't then the US would have crushed the Taliban in days.  Instead were' still fighting them.  The best weapon system in the world remains the infantryman and his rifle.  They alone allow you to take and hold ground.  Tanks, helicopters, bombers and fighters help you beat another conventional military and are absolutely useful, albeit less so, against a partisan threat.  But the bottom line is that, short of total annihilation, an armed populace remains an insurmountable obstacle to a conquering military.  Also, don't ignore how many military members would find it difficult, if not impossible, to fire on their fellon the rmericans in the, hopefully never realized, scenario we're talking about.

I certainly have my issues with them as well.  You might have a different view of them though if you lived in CA, where politicians masturbate with equal fervor to the idea of disarming their citizenry by increments.

Here is the question I have, though, and that is if violent crime has been on the decline since 1993, a year before the AWB, and firearm ownership has really been on the rise in the past decade, since the sunset of the ban, does that not show that the correlation is not one of causation?
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NC's new proposed gun law - Griever - 06-23-2016, 09:43 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Au165 - 06-23-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Benton - 06-23-2016, 10:04 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Rotobeast - 06-23-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Au165 - 06-23-2016, 11:47 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - PhilHos - 06-23-2016, 11:50 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Rotobeast - 06-23-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - GMDino - 06-23-2016, 12:03 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - PhilHos - 06-23-2016, 12:16 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - GodFather - 06-23-2016, 12:06 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - PhilHos - 06-23-2016, 12:17 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - GMDino - 06-23-2016, 12:36 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Griever - 06-23-2016, 12:45 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Nately120 - 06-23-2016, 02:41 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Griever - 06-23-2016, 02:42 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Nately120 - 06-23-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - GMDino - 06-23-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Griever - 06-23-2016, 02:49 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Rotobeast - 06-23-2016, 03:41 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Griever - 06-23-2016, 03:47 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Rotobeast - 06-23-2016, 04:02 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Millhouse - 06-23-2016, 12:54 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - xxlt - 06-23-2016, 08:53 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - xxlt - 06-24-2016, 08:44 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Rotobeast - 06-24-2016, 10:08 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Griever - 06-24-2016, 10:12 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Rotobeast - 06-24-2016, 10:55 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Rotobeast - 06-24-2016, 01:11 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - fredtoast - 06-25-2016, 03:18 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - bfine32 - 06-25-2016, 03:34 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - fredtoast - 06-25-2016, 11:41 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - fredtoast - 06-25-2016, 03:15 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - BmorePat87 - 06-23-2016, 01:38 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Rotobeast - 06-23-2016, 02:02 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Nately120 - 06-23-2016, 02:49 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - rfaulk34 - 06-23-2016, 08:12 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Aquapod770 - 06-23-2016, 03:23 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Griever - 06-23-2016, 04:08 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Griever - 06-23-2016, 04:46 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Rotobeast - 06-23-2016, 06:02 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Belsnickel - 06-23-2016, 05:53 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Belsnickel - 06-23-2016, 07:29 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Belsnickel - 06-23-2016, 11:36 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Rotobeast - 06-24-2016, 07:31 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - bfine32 - 06-23-2016, 11:55 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - bfine32 - 06-24-2016, 12:01 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - bfine32 - 06-24-2016, 01:09 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Belsnickel - 06-24-2016, 07:51 AM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Belsnickel - 06-24-2016, 03:03 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - bfine32 - 06-24-2016, 03:13 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Benton - 06-24-2016, 03:21 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Belsnickel - 06-24-2016, 05:57 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Belsnickel - 06-24-2016, 05:58 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Belsnickel - 06-24-2016, 08:58 PM
RE: NC's new proposed gun law - Belsnickel - 06-24-2016, 10:04 PM

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