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Has Trump Gone Too Far?
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(08-08-2016, 07:19 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This makes no sense.  There is no other profession on earth where you get better quality people by paying less.  

Right now the system is about buying elections.  If that is not fixed then it doesn't matter how often they turnover. We are still going to have people get elected based on money.

Take the money out of the system and the two party system will not be in control.  Take the money out of the system and elected officials will not be owned by the people who pay for their elections.  term limits does nothting to fix these problems.

And what happens if you finally do find a great politician?  Why kick him out of office based on term limits?

I work with volunteers every day for different things. Youth sports, Wounded Warriors, Aging Council, 4-H, Build A Bed, etc. Almost all the people involved volunteer their time and do some great things. I also work with people who sometimes get paid to provide very similar services. I can't say many of those who do it as a job do it much better than those who do it because they love to. It's what drives them.

Sometimes we do have that in politics. We have people who aren't doing it for the check and perks, instead working to make their communities (either local or state) a better place because they want that, but I don't think that's the norm any more.

Term limits aren't the be all end all, but neither is finance reform. It's impossible to take the money completely out of the picture. You may not have corps and individuals donating directly to a candidate, but that doesn't stop them from doing business with a candidate's company, with a candidate's family's company, etc. You can't legislate away a company donating money to the same school where gov. Whatshisname's kids go.
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Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BFritz21 - 08-07-2016, 10:00 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 10:20 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 10:21 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-07-2016, 10:22 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - 6andcounting - 08-07-2016, 10:46 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-07-2016, 10:51 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Bengalzona - 08-07-2016, 11:53 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-07-2016, 11:14 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - CKwi88 - 08-07-2016, 11:49 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - JustWinBaby - 08-08-2016, 01:14 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-07-2016, 12:12 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 12:30 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-07-2016, 12:45 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BFritz21 - 08-07-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 02:06 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 02:07 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Bengalholic - 08-07-2016, 02:22 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-07-2016, 05:40 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - NATI BENGALS - 08-07-2016, 02:31 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BFritz21 - 08-08-2016, 04:55 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - NATI BENGALS - 08-08-2016, 07:20 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-08-2016, 07:30 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Bengalzona - 08-09-2016, 09:30 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-07-2016, 04:11 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Millhouse - 08-07-2016, 05:47 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - SunsetBengal - 08-07-2016, 06:51 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 07:05 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-07-2016, 11:46 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - SunsetBengal - 08-08-2016, 02:59 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-08-2016, 05:52 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-08-2016, 07:19 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-08-2016, 07:35 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-08-2016, 07:39 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-08-2016, 08:33 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Bengalzona - 08-09-2016, 09:22 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Nately120 - 08-08-2016, 01:04 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-08-2016, 01:14 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - CJD - 08-08-2016, 08:54 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Beaker - 08-08-2016, 11:10 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-08-2016, 12:42 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Nately120 - 08-08-2016, 01:38 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-08-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Nately120 - 08-08-2016, 02:12 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-08-2016, 02:19 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-08-2016, 02:08 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-08-2016, 02:22 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Nately120 - 08-08-2016, 02:45 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Au165 - 08-08-2016, 12:48 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-08-2016, 08:20 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-08-2016, 08:21 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-08-2016, 08:28 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-08-2016, 08:36 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-09-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-09-2016, 04:07 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-09-2016, 01:00 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BmorePat87 - 08-10-2016, 11:27 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BmorePat87 - 08-10-2016, 12:09 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - PhilHos - 08-10-2016, 12:12 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BmorePat87 - 08-10-2016, 12:34 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-10-2016, 01:34 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-10-2016, 02:36 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BmorePat87 - 08-10-2016, 02:39 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-10-2016, 02:40 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-10-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-10-2016, 02:44 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-10-2016, 08:13 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-11-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Au165 - 08-11-2016, 04:51 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-11-2016, 05:35 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-11-2016, 05:42 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-11-2016, 08:56 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - CKwi88 - 08-11-2016, 05:53 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-11-2016, 07:22 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-11-2016, 07:26 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-11-2016, 10:43 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-11-2016, 11:52 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-11-2016, 11:58 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-12-2016, 12:29 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-12-2016, 12:44 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-12-2016, 01:11 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-12-2016, 01:20 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-12-2016, 01:37 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-12-2016, 01:40 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Au165 - 08-12-2016, 11:41 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-12-2016, 11:51 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-12-2016, 12:00 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-12-2016, 05:44 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-12-2016, 09:14 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Au165 - 08-12-2016, 09:22 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-12-2016, 09:25 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-12-2016, 10:13 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-12-2016, 10:22 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-12-2016, 10:40 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-12-2016, 11:04 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-12-2016, 10:34 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-12-2016, 01:32 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-12-2016, 01:47 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - tigerseye - 08-12-2016, 06:15 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-12-2016, 08:52 PM

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