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Has Trump Gone Too Far?
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(08-08-2016, 07:39 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This logic still fails.

If there are people willing to work in politics for lower pay why would they refuse to do it for higher pay.

Of all the volunteers you have worked with how many would refuse to do the same work for a lot of pay?

LOL

That's a jump. It's not that they won't do it, it's that there's competition for it. Well funded competition for guy's who stand to make a lot.

Candidate A: Qualified, dedicated, has a background that provides him with a litany of things and ways to fix them. And he does it for little to no money.

Candidate B: Qualified, personable and has a giant campaign contribution list.

Who gets elected?

There's a lot involved in why elections are screwed up. Campaign finance and career politicians share a near equal amount of the blame. After all, as someone very intelligent once said,


Quote:Right now the system is about buying elections.  If that is not fixed then it doesn't matter how often they turnover. We are still going to have people get elected based on money.... Take the money out of the system and elected officials will not be owned by the people who pay for their elections.

Which I agree with, but it's not enough to take out the financing and contributions because — as I said earlier — you can't ever take out all of it. You can't take out indirect benefits. So you have to look at ways to change the system to encourage less participation by those only looking at padding their bank account. Just changing the way they get bribed does nothing to encourage participation by people who don't feel like thy have a chance at winning.
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Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BFritz21 - 08-07-2016, 10:00 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 10:20 AM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-07-2016, 10:22 AM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Bengalzona - 08-07-2016, 11:53 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-07-2016, 11:14 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - CKwi88 - 08-07-2016, 11:49 AM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-07-2016, 12:12 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 12:30 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-07-2016, 12:45 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BFritz21 - 08-07-2016, 01:51 PM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Bengalholic - 08-07-2016, 02:22 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-07-2016, 05:40 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - NATI BENGALS - 08-07-2016, 02:31 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BFritz21 - 08-08-2016, 04:55 PM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-08-2016, 07:30 PM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-12-2016, 12:29 AM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-12-2016, 11:51 AM
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