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Has Trump Gone Too Far?
(08-12-2016, 01:47 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So did Obama lie is 2014 when he considered ISIS the JV or was he ignorant of their power and influence?

Nobody rational thinks Obama created the Muslim radical group that now goes by the moniker ISIS, but their rise to global is associated with his Presidency. We can blame on other people if we want. it's not a new stadegy.

It can be argued that they rose to prominence when they broke with al Qaeda (an organization linked to the Bush Jr prsidency; although formed prior) after the death of Bin Laden.

Anybody that thinks they have it all figured out is just fooling themselves. This is why I didn't say trump was right or wrong in his assertion.

Most likely ignorance, but I can't say for certain without know what he had been briefed intelligence wise. 

Obama made the JV comment in January 2014 three days after the Iraqi government lost control of Fallujah. Al Qaeda disavowed ISIS the following month. At the time, ISIS was the JV team and al Qaeda was the varsity. I guess you didn't warn everybody because your crystal ball you use to look into the future was in the shop for repairs. 

I don't claim to have it all figured out, but obviously some people know more than others. Of course you didn't say Trump was right or wrong. Most of the time you try to remain as vague as possible so later you can deny saying something you suggested. Like suggesting Obama created ISIS has merit. You didn't say Trump was right, you merely suggested he was right while preserving your ability to later claim you never said he was right. It is a strategy you employ frequently. That's one of the reasons you avoid answering questions which paint you into a corner. Because then you won't be able to deny you said something like you just did. Again. 





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Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BFritz21 - 08-07-2016, 10:00 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 10:20 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 10:21 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-07-2016, 10:22 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - 6andcounting - 08-07-2016, 10:46 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-07-2016, 10:51 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Bengalzona - 08-07-2016, 11:53 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-07-2016, 11:14 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - CKwi88 - 08-07-2016, 11:49 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - JustWinBaby - 08-08-2016, 01:14 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-07-2016, 12:12 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 12:30 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-07-2016, 12:45 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BFritz21 - 08-07-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 02:06 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 02:07 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Bengalholic - 08-07-2016, 02:22 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-07-2016, 05:40 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - NATI BENGALS - 08-07-2016, 02:31 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BFritz21 - 08-08-2016, 04:55 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - NATI BENGALS - 08-08-2016, 07:20 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-08-2016, 07:30 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Bengalzona - 08-09-2016, 09:30 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-07-2016, 04:11 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Millhouse - 08-07-2016, 05:47 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - SunsetBengal - 08-07-2016, 06:51 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-07-2016, 07:05 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-07-2016, 11:46 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - SunsetBengal - 08-08-2016, 02:59 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-08-2016, 05:52 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-08-2016, 07:19 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-08-2016, 07:35 PM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-08-2016, 08:33 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Bengalzona - 08-09-2016, 09:22 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Nately120 - 08-08-2016, 01:04 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-08-2016, 01:14 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - CJD - 08-08-2016, 08:54 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Beaker - 08-08-2016, 11:10 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-08-2016, 12:42 PM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-08-2016, 01:51 PM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Nately120 - 08-08-2016, 02:45 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Au165 - 08-08-2016, 12:48 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-08-2016, 08:20 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-08-2016, 08:21 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-08-2016, 08:28 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-08-2016, 08:36 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-09-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-09-2016, 04:07 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-09-2016, 01:00 PM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BmorePat87 - 08-10-2016, 12:34 PM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-10-2016, 02:36 PM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-10-2016, 02:40 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-10-2016, 02:43 PM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-11-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Au165 - 08-11-2016, 04:51 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-11-2016, 05:35 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-11-2016, 05:42 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-11-2016, 08:56 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - CKwi88 - 08-11-2016, 05:53 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-11-2016, 07:22 PM
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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-11-2016, 10:43 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-11-2016, 11:52 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-11-2016, 11:58 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-12-2016, 12:29 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-12-2016, 12:44 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-12-2016, 01:11 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-12-2016, 01:20 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-12-2016, 01:37 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-12-2016, 01:40 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Au165 - 08-12-2016, 11:41 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - fredtoast - 08-12-2016, 11:51 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-12-2016, 12:00 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-12-2016, 05:44 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-12-2016, 09:14 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Au165 - 08-12-2016, 09:22 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-12-2016, 09:25 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-12-2016, 10:13 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-12-2016, 10:22 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-12-2016, 10:40 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Benton - 08-12-2016, 11:04 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-12-2016, 10:34 AM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-12-2016, 01:32 PM
RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - bfine32 - 08-12-2016, 01:47 PM
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