08-14-2016, 10:40 PM
(08-14-2016, 07:44 PM)kevin Wrote: I voted Marvin Lewis because from 1991 to 2002 The Bengals were not just the worst team in the NFL but considered the worst franchise in all pro sports....The Vikings were not that bad for Zimmer......Coach Lewis still one of the first black head coaches, not the first,but one of the first. It was a great Branch Rickey move by Bengals because no top white head coach in his right mind wanted the Bengals job after 2002, this was the worst NFL franchise going. Call it racism or whatever but there were good black assistant coaches more than ready to become head coaches. The Bengals dipped into that pool of coaches and it was a great move....Lewis did the impossible taking the worst NFL franchise and turning it around to 7 play-off seasons in 13 years which is over 50 % of the time in the play-offs that was going to the play-offs none of the time from 1991 to 2002 and known for their 4-12 seasons or worse. ......I remember how stinking awful the Bengals were and do not ever tell me those were good teams....Coach Lewis turning the worst team in the NFL into a team that has gone play-offs 7 out of his 13 seasons and 6 out of the last 7 is amazing. I do not know how he turned this stinking franchise around. Few coaches could have. It has indeed been a Lombardi like effort bringing winning to the sad sack Bengals......To those who always want Coach Lewis fired, be careful what you wish for. Without Coach Lewis I see this Cincinnati franchise reverting back to their 1990's form of being the worst team in the NFL, and maybe pulling out of Cincinnati all together for some other city.
This thread seems to have gotten way off track.
I simply asked who you rather have coaching the 2016 Bengals. Same roster as now, same schedule, same everything. You get your choice of 2016 Marvin Lewis or 2016 Mike Zimmer. One coaching coming off an 11-5 first round playoff exit, another coming off a 12-4 first round playoff exit. One with 13 years on the job, one with 2 years one job.
Again, this year's team, this year's coaches.
What does what the Bengals did from '92 to '03 have to do with answering that question? What does what either walked into have to do with that question?
The question wasn't who did a better job rebuilding. The question wasn't who inherited a bigger mess. I mean, if you would like to discuss then, by all means, go for it. Start a separate thread even. Just don't act like that's an appropriate rebuttal to a harmless question.
Who gets this team further this year? That's it. Who do you want? If you're going with Marvin if for no reason other than he's turned around what used to be a laughingstock then that's fine I guess. Although it kinda seems like a waste of breath, as far as convincing anyone that's he's the right choice now. The fact we were bad in 1995 is irrelevant to who is the better coach in 2016.
This is how I feel this discussion has developed:
Q-"Who makes better pizza, Papa Johns or Domino's?"
A-"Papa Johns was my first job. I liked it there. They did a lot for the local school's sports team when I was there."
Q-"Ok, but who's pizza do you like better?"
A-"I was eating Papa Johns at a pool party one time. It was fun."
Q- "Wh... I..I..I don't know... We're getting off track. Do you like Papa Johns or Dominos more?"
A- "Oh, Little Ceasars is the worst. Did you know Ken Griffey Jr. went to Moeller?"
