McCarron hype gaining steam

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(07-04-2015, 04:26 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: -Turnovers haven't effected the defense as much as has been claimed. Continued turnovers on a short field might, but a solid defense (which the Bengals have had) could off-set that, as proven by the Green Bay game in '13. Also, turnovers wouldn't lead to such a disparity in rushing yards or a lack of disparity in first downs and time of possession. Bad defensive play, overall, has lead to bad defensive play. Hell, 2 of the 4 playoff games were a wash in terms of turnovers; Houston v2 and Indy. That leaves Houston v1 and SD where the 3 and 4 turnover differential still left each team with an equal TOP.

A lack of pressure on the QB, failure to stop the run and an inability to create turnovers have lead to bad defensive performances in all 4 games. 

-I'd call it deductive logic as opposed to circular logic. No QBs come into the league with either of those, but QBs are drafted with expectations. You wouldn't compare Peyton Manning to AJ McCarron because of the expectation and draft position of each. To hope for great things from a 5th round QB who was on a talent-laden team with many NFL draftees isn't wise. If he's able to come in and be a top 12 QB, he'd be the exception rather than the norm. Russell Wilson, while being an exception, was still a 3rd round pick that showed definite mobility as well as ability. Tom Brady is the biggest outlier there is. With the Bengals record of ability and luck in drafting, what are their chances of getting a Tom Brady type? I'd say about zero. If we were talking about a laundry list of 'what could have been', i'd say their chances were great. Definitely not with the Montana, Brady luck though.

- Somewhere Jeff Rowe and Casey Bramlet have hurt feelings right now.

- I appreciate the stats you put up and the work it takes to find stuff like that. Looking at them is depressing on several levels.

- The other team will have a shorter time of possession if they are scoring fast and the Bengals are doing their typical grind it out. I can't see that as any sort of indicator of anything. We would have to look at some other info to determine effects of the turn overs.

The team that wins the turnover battle wins the game more often than not. THAT was my point. It's a tough thing to come back from.

I get your point on not hanging my hat on a 5th round QB. However, guys fall for different reasons. AJ McCArron was projected as a 2nd to 3rd rounder. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/aj-mccarron?id=2543497  My point with AJ is that even if his skill set is more similar to AD than not, he's a winner at the highest level in college and has a totally different attitude and personality that I think might be better suited for this team. I am interested in seeing him this preseason and if he shines or if it's Armon Binns like hype they are throwing on him. Either way, I want anyone on the Bengals to succeed so that we can enjoy them as long as possible every season.