07-06-2015, 06:38 AM
(07-06-2015, 06:12 AM)BengalChris Wrote: My point is that he didn't improve in 2014 and he didn't. He also didn't improve as the year went on, which is what you would expect if the QB practiced with those same guys all year long. I'm not bashing him. I'm just saying he didn't improve in 2014 and few will say he did.
If you go back to my original post, I pin a lot on the coaching.
I place Dalton in th 14-16 range of QBs. The inconsistencies are what bring him down. I know he's capable of having really nice games. I also know that he's liable to have some more really bad ones and they seem to come from no where. Whenever people call him elite or try to compare his game with all time greats, I just post the highlights of the Cleveland game and that's pretty much proof he doesn't belong in such comparisons. At least not until he wins a SB (whenever that may be).
QBs I rank ahead of Dalton are: Brady, P Manning, Rivers, Rodgers, Rothlesburger, Brees, Flacco, Romo, Luck, Wilson, E Manning, Tannihill, Ryan.
Guys I rank around Dalton are: Stafford, Newton, Foles (had a better 2013 than Dalton did), Palmer.
Up and coming young guys who could overtake Dalton in the next couple off years: Derek Carr (a couple of years away give how badly manned the Raiders are), Bridgewater (solid, talented team around him, kind of like what Dalton has had).
Gues I rank below Dalton are: Smith, Manuel, Keapernick, RGIII, Sanchez, Vick (now that he's aged), Orton, Hoyer, etc.
His stats didn't improve in 2014, and that's for sure. But I don't think you could just go off of what the stats say for last year. Only because of the talent gap of what he had in 2013 and 2014. It honestly all depends on what your perspective is if you think he improved or not. Personally I think that he showed some improvement, but that's easily debatable; I can easily understand if someone thinks that he regressed / stayed the same.
I agree with your list except that I think E. Manning, Flacco and Tannihill are around Dalton, and not clearly ahead. (I'm not saying Dalton is better than them either)
