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A few questions to ponder
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(07-08-2015, 10:56 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I have been watching Dalton for years.  He has the skills to be a very good QB and this is proven by how well he performs in his top games.  But he also looks completely lost in some games and completely falls apart.  Over the years his performances have been up and down in a pretty randon fashion.  And this is what I saw in 2014.  he looked really good is some games early in the year and he also looked really good in some games later in the year.  I didn't see a guy who was flawless early in the year, and I didn't see a guy who was perfect late in the yar.  instead I saw the same thing i have seen over his entire career.  he was up and down in a random fashion.

How do you explain the fact that he struggled against the Titans early in the season, but then came back and had one of his best games of the year the very next week?

Most of the time I hear these comments about how Dalton was flawless early in the season and crap l;ater in the season it is used as a criticism of Zampese.  Zampese is like Paul Alexander.  He does a good job, but people want to hate on him just because he has been here a long time.

So there you have it.  i think you are wrong in your opinion of Dalton looking great in every game early in the year and like crap after the first five games.  To me he looked like the same old up-and-down Dalton.  He had some very good games late in the season, and he had a bad game early in the season.  

I don't recall ever saying he was flawless early on, nor do I recall saying that he never looked good at any point later in the year. No QB is 100% perfect or 100% terrible. When I said "he looked like crap as the year went on", I didn't mean that he literally looked like a turd on the field, it's an expression. I did clearly state that he had a couple of good games in between, but IMO he looked much better early than he did later on, and I don't see how anyone that watched the games could argue with that. That's why I said "he looked like crap as the year went on".

Where do you get that he struggled against the Titans? The stat sheet or are you watching the game? I remember a confident Andy Dalton stepping up in the pocket making a lot of short, smart throws that went for some decent yards at times. He didn't look like crap in that game at all, and I don't care what his passer rating was (I don't even know at the moment to be honest). He didn't throw for any TDs because the playcalling didn't dictate it. The game was a blowout, and run plays were called at the goalline. Don't forget he also had his TD reception in that game. Andy played well against the Titans, I don't need a stat sheet to tell me how he played. I remember the beginning of 2014 very, very well as I've watched them all multiple times even a couple of the games recently. Maybe I should re-watch the later half of the year more, but I do remember a lot of details about most of the games this past season as a whole.

I'm not using this to bash Zampese, I just think you're fiddling with the numbers to go out of your way defending Zampese. I blame Andy himself, Hue, Zampese, Marvin, and injuries all for the regression that I saw over the season. Hue's playcalling wasn't helping any QB at the end of the year, and past that Zampese or Marvin should have done something about Andy's lack of confidence and pocket awareness that became abysmal by year's end. I'm not blaming anyone specifically, but I'd personally say Andy and Hue are the 2 biggest culprits.

I don't think he looked like the same up and down Dalton at all. I believe he looked sharp and prepared for the first 5 games. After that, you didn't know who was going to show up. I think Andy may have had his confidence knocked out of him against Indy and especially Cleveland, but who knows for sure, that's why we're here discussing it. Andy looked like there was a different man showing up after the first month or two, and I can't believe you didn't see that too.
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A few questions to ponder - CornerBlitz - 07-04-2015, 02:11 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PApinhead - 07-04-2015, 02:24 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Joe Pong - 07-04-2015, 05:29 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PApinhead - 07-04-2015, 11:58 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - rfaulk34 - 07-04-2015, 02:49 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-04-2015, 03:03 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - rfaulk34 - 07-04-2015, 03:12 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-04-2015, 04:17 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - rfaulk34 - 07-04-2015, 04:41 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 11:28 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-05-2015, 12:19 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 12:40 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-05-2015, 01:00 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 12:43 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-05-2015, 12:50 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 12:52 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Beaker - 07-05-2015, 04:18 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-05-2015, 06:12 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Beaker - 07-05-2015, 07:20 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-05-2015, 08:48 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Beaker - 07-06-2015, 01:09 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 12:23 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-05-2015, 12:45 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Brownshoe - 07-06-2015, 02:17 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-06-2015, 09:10 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Tim_B - 07-04-2015, 06:59 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-05-2015, 10:33 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - J24 - 07-05-2015, 12:02 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Beaker - 07-05-2015, 09:40 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - SHRacerX - 07-05-2015, 10:50 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - bfine32 - 07-05-2015, 01:18 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - samhain - 07-05-2015, 06:14 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - spazz70 - 07-05-2015, 02:04 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - samhain - 07-05-2015, 03:27 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - J24 - 07-05-2015, 05:37 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - samhain - 07-05-2015, 06:00 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 03:34 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - GodFather - 07-05-2015, 09:17 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 09:30 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - GodFather - 07-05-2015, 09:57 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-06-2015, 01:19 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Brownshoe - 07-06-2015, 03:28 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - t3r3e3 - 07-06-2015, 02:28 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 09:57 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Tim_B - 07-06-2015, 03:50 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Tim_B - 07-06-2015, 06:38 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-06-2015, 01:07 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-06-2015, 08:52 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-07-2015, 01:11 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-07-2015, 08:23 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-07-2015, 02:10 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-07-2015, 06:21 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 07:24 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 09:33 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 09:40 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 10:04 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 09:52 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 10:11 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 10:14 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 10:56 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 11:18 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 11:48 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 11:55 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 01:05 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 01:14 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-08-2015, 02:16 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-08-2015, 02:29 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 03:05 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-09-2015, 08:24 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-08-2015, 02:27 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-08-2015, 02:50 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Brownshoe - 07-08-2015, 11:53 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - WhoDeyWho - 07-09-2015, 12:53 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Benton - 07-06-2015, 11:40 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - grampahol - 07-06-2015, 03:33 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-06-2015, 07:02 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Synric - 07-08-2015, 02:27 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 10:14 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-09-2015, 03:27 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-09-2015, 03:49 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-09-2015, 03:54 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PhilHos - 07-10-2015, 12:24 PM

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