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VP Debate Thread
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(10-05-2016, 10:20 AM)Dill Wrote: I didn't like Kaine's interruptions, frankly. I think they hurt more than helped. They are the main reason why so many think Pence won.

However, one goal of the VP debate, maybe a primary goal, is to create talking points for the next news cycle and provide sound bites for political adds and talk shows. The target is voters in the middle, the uncommitted, not die hard Trump voters or Democrats.

I think Kaine may have been successful in creating a lot of "denial" soundbites--Pence denying Trump and he said x, y, and z. These denials can then be played alongside video of Trump saying x, y, and z.   However "poised" Pence may seem, he is shown avoiding questions and lying about the Trump record, all the while loudly admiring his character and family.

I know a lot of people here that aren't really fans of either candidate but like Kaine because he was governor here were not happy with Kaine. One of my employees said "I hope people noticed from the sidebar information that he is not a native Virginian, because he was just a rude asshole."

Kaine won on substance, but that's not what wins these debates overall. It's very telling, though, that the DNC/Clinton campaign is very happy with Kaine's performance, and while the GOP/Trump campaign has warm fuzzies about Pence's performance, Trump himself is reportedly unimpressed.

Honestly, Pence was setting up a 2020 bid more than anything. As Roll Call put it in one tweet, "Pence just won the Iowa caucus."
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VP Debate Thread - BmorePat87 - 10-04-2016, 05:41 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - GMDino - 10-04-2016, 10:44 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - wildcats forever - 10-04-2016, 10:49 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - bfine32 - 10-04-2016, 10:52 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - GMDino - 10-04-2016, 11:18 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - GMDino - 10-04-2016, 11:11 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - wildcats forever - 10-05-2016, 04:46 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - BmorePat87 - 10-04-2016, 11:38 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - GMDino - 10-04-2016, 11:43 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - GMDino - 10-05-2016, 07:01 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Belsnickel - 10-05-2016, 07:41 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - GMDino - 10-05-2016, 08:52 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Dill - 10-05-2016, 10:20 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Belsnickel - 10-05-2016, 09:10 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - BmorePat87 - 10-05-2016, 09:14 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Belsnickel - 10-05-2016, 09:16 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Belsnickel - 10-05-2016, 09:17 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Belsnickel - 10-05-2016, 10:15 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Belsnickel - 10-05-2016, 10:30 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - BmorePat87 - 10-05-2016, 11:02 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Dill - 10-05-2016, 03:34 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Belsnickel - 10-05-2016, 11:25 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - CageTheBengal - 10-05-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - BmorePat87 - 10-05-2016, 11:50 AM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Goalpost - 10-05-2016, 12:02 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - CKwi88 - 10-05-2016, 12:08 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Belsnickel - 10-05-2016, 12:04 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - Rotobeast - 10-05-2016, 01:27 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - bfine32 - 10-05-2016, 01:32 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - BmorePat87 - 10-05-2016, 06:14 PM
RE: VP Debate Thread - GMDino - 10-05-2016, 09:46 PM

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