VP Debate Thread

[Dill]

(10-05-2016, 10:30 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Kaine won on substance, but that's not what wins these debates overall. It's very telling, though, that the DNC/Clinton campaign is very happy with Kaine's performance, and while the GOP/Trump campaign has warm fuzzies about Pence's performance, Trump himself is reportedly unimpressed.

Honestly, Pence was setting up a 2020 bid more than anything. As Roll Call put it in one tweet, "Pence just won the Iowa caucus."

One might think so, and yet, I am pretty sure that had Pence run with the other 16 Republican candidates against Trump he would have lost, probably dropped out about when Walker did.  Almost any of those 16 except Bush and Carson and Christie (because of bridgegate) would have Clinton underwater right now, given the email scandal. But the "base" wouldn't have it that way.  And if Trump loses big, it is unlikely that base hold its own bad judgment accountable. It will be the fault of the liberal press and a rigged system and the establishment's refusal to support a loose-cannon candidate.


It is not clear that the Republican party will or can go back to "normal" now.