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Gennifer Flowers.
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(10-13-2016, 07:35 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I would like option C, which is honestly quite more likely than any chance of Johnson winning outright.

C.- Fudge the electoral votes, with a couple third-party candidates winning a few states, and send the decision to the House of Representatives.
Roll the dice, baby.
I think that would go in my favor.

So you basically admit there's no real option c) here.
Reality denies you an option c, it's not on the table for you. What you can choose from in your situation is whether you prefer option a) (then go Hillary) or b) (then go Johnson). That's it. Everything else is not a choice you have.
You can stay home, of course. A vote for Johnson is btw. not a sign that the system is broken and needs to change. The fact that half of the people do not vote at all is.

(10-13-2016, 07:35 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: As far as any change within parties....if it doesn't split, I can see the Republican party moving to being a little more giving on social issues to pull in some of the Libertarians.
The DNC has the game down pat, so they'll stick to their plan.

In the end it probably would need - as the most promising next step to me - maybe a charismatic candidate in a primary who runs on questioning the election cycle and overthrowing the voting system, including the two-party system. Which is overthrowing the majority voting rights. Which also is in the end the introduction of some kind of a parliamentary system (like in Europe, just better).
It would need to name the root of the situation you're in now, to discuss it. Which are these things.

(10-13-2016, 07:35 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I don't care for the electoral college, to be honest.
I wouldn't mind going to an absolute rank voting system, but that will never happen.

Yeah but you should.
In these times, when giving this factual choices for president (Johnson is none), you clearly need to see that the root for this situation lies within a system that has become too flawed to lean on.
You need more real, meaningful choices then just two candidates from the two parties. I think we agree on that. Hold that thought.
But right now, would you please do the sensible thing and do what's in your power to avoid Trump. No, sorry. I do get that your logic leads you to a different point, and I respect your logic. But... well, also consider mine. I feel I have quite an argument on my side, which is a possible Trump presidency.

And afterwards, immediately care about the voting system that led you to this choice you had to make.
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Gennifer Flowers. - hollodero - 09-24-2016, 09:23 PM
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