10-13-2016, 08:34 PM
(10-13-2016, 08:09 PM)hollodero Wrote: So you basically admit there's no real option c) here.
Reality denies you an option c, it's not on the table for you. What you can choose from in your situation is whether you prefer option a) (then go Hillary) or b) (then go Johnson). That's it. Everything else is not a choice you have.
You can stay home, of course. A vote for Johnson is btw. not a sign that the system is broken and needs to change. The fact that half of the people do not vote at all is.
In the end it probably would need - as the most promising next step to me - maybe a charismatic candidate in a primary who runs on questioning the election cycle and overthrowing the voting system, including the two-party system. Which is overthrowing the majority voting rights. Which also is in the end the introduction of some kind of a parliamentary system (like in Europe, just better).
It would need to name the root of the situation you're in now, to discuss it. Which are these things.
Yeah but you should.
In these times, when giving this factual choices for president (Johnson is none), you clearly need to see that the root for this situation lies within a system that has become too flawed to lean on.
You need more real, meaningful choices then just two candidates from the two parties. I think we agree on that. Hold that thought.
But right now, would you please do the sensible thing and do what's in your power to avoid Trump. No, sorry. I do get that your logic leads you to a different point, and I respect your logic. But... well, also consider mine. I feel I have quite an argument on my side, which is a possible Trump presidency.
And afterwards, immediately care about the voting system that led you to this choice you had to make.
I will not lie, I have abstained from voting for a president before.
I'm not completely proud of it, but it was the choice I made at the time.
Now... take this as a compliment....
You could make a good bit of money working for Correct The Record.
You're really smooth.
I will not deviate from my vote though.
I am still going to hold out hope that Trump will continue to embarrass himself out of the election and WikiLeaks proves Hillary undeniably guilty of something horrid and they haul her off in chains.
Not to mention, there are supposed to be some bigger Republicans in line to support Johnson.
Probably lies, but meh...
Anyway, I'm rattling on.
My usefulness in conversation has dwindled to a drip, for this evening.
I bid you good evening.
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