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The Framing of Assange
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(10-19-2016, 11:32 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I completely agree.  This is my major problem with Snowden and the people who idolize him.  You want to hold him up as a paragon of American values who exposed government overreach?  That all falls apart the minute he exposes US surveillance techniques and activities against foreign countries, any foreign country.  At that moment he ceases to become a whistle blower and became a traitor to his nation.  Much like Assange, and I agree with you on him, there is a line that you shouldn't cross and they both did so eagerly.

So, can you just clarify your personal take on Snowden a bit? Are you saying you are OK with him exposing illegal government activities when they violate the rights of U.S. citizens, but not when they violate the rights of foreign countries? Or are you saying you that you don't want your government doing illegal things but you also oppose anyone who exposes the government; when the government is ready to admit transgressions it will do so? Or are you saying you are OK with a government that does whatever if wants, the rights of U.S. citizens and foreigners be damned?
JOHN ROBERTS: From time to time in the years to come, I hope you will be treated unfairly so that you will come to know the value of justice... I wish you bad luck, again, from time to time so that you will be conscious of the role of chance in life and understand that your success is not completely deserved and that the failure of others is not completely deserved either.





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The Framing of Assange - Rotobeast - 10-19-2016, 09:59 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - GMDino - 10-19-2016, 10:41 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - fredtoast - 10-19-2016, 10:16 PM
RE: The Framing of Assange - Belsnickel - 10-19-2016, 11:19 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - xxlt - 10-20-2016, 09:20 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - xxlt - 10-20-2016, 03:07 PM
RE: The Framing of Assange - xxlt - 10-21-2016, 12:10 PM
RE: The Framing of Assange - xxlt - 10-21-2016, 03:25 PM
RE: The Framing of Assange - BmorePat87 - 10-19-2016, 11:46 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - Benton - 10-19-2016, 11:26 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - Belsnickel - 10-19-2016, 11:54 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - Rotobeast - 10-19-2016, 12:40 PM
RE: The Framing of Assange - BmorePat87 - 10-19-2016, 01:11 PM
RE: The Framing of Assange - bfine32 - 10-19-2016, 12:50 PM
RE: The Framing of Assange - Rotobeast - 10-19-2016, 02:15 PM
RE: The Framing of Assange - Belsnickel - 10-20-2016, 09:29 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - xxlt - 10-20-2016, 09:40 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - Belsnickel - 10-20-2016, 09:53 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - xxlt - 10-20-2016, 10:09 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - Belsnickel - 10-20-2016, 10:17 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - xxlt - 10-20-2016, 10:26 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - Belsnickel - 10-20-2016, 10:45 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - xxlt - 10-20-2016, 03:02 PM
RE: The Framing of Assange - fredtoast - 10-20-2016, 05:42 PM
RE: The Framing of Assange - Rotobeast - 10-20-2016, 11:25 PM
RE: The Framing of Assange - fredtoast - 10-21-2016, 10:53 AM
RE: The Framing of Assange - Dill - 10-21-2016, 06:04 PM

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