09 November

[Dill]

(10-23-2016, 01:27 PM)djam Wrote: Voter ID's make no protection? So how about the thousands of people bussed around voting multiple times, riding around in Democrat  owned busses? Voter fraud IS election fraud LMAO......sheesh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/05/25/cbs-uncovers-voter-fraud-in-la-n2168330

Whoa djam, I am not disputing that thousands upon thousands of cases of voter fraud are "revealed" by right wing organizations during every election. Breitbart.com has a "dead voters" article for about every state in the Union, and the Veritas videos produce speculation about voter fraud, not evidence a prosecutor could act on.  That's the sort of thing you put out to whip up fears your candidate promises to manage.

I was speaking of "actual" cases, the record of complaints and prosecutions.  Election fraud is much more serious than voter fraud.

And voter suppression laws--id requirements, shorter polling hours, reduction of polling places, etc.--will do much more to affect the vote than a 3 cases of id fraud every four years.

After responding to pressure to address rampant voter fraud in Missouri with strict voter id laws, the state undertook a study which found no actual cases of voter fraud, but did see evidence the id law would disenfranchise 220,000 voters.

http://www.sos.mo.gov/default.aspx?PageId=5427

>>a bill that would establish the most onerous photo ID requirements in the country and possibly disenfranchise approximately 220,000 registered voters," Kander said. "HB1073 would make it more difficult for eligible Missouri voters who have legally voted for years to cast a ballot. . . . The report also notes that the Secretary of State’s office has not received any reports of voter impersonation fraud.<<

So the worry about voter fraud turns out to be very selective. Hundreds of thousands may be disenfranchised, and election fraud could affect hundreds of thousands of votes as well, but right wing voters focus on those one or two guys in the entire country who might vote for a dead person or steal someone's id.