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so much for draining the swamp
(11-19-2016, 05:00 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: I understand you can't follow a simple argument.  I explained the point twice.  The above completely misunderstands what is being said. 

Appointed WH staff are not career staffers, obviously.  Jesus.
Arguments advanced in sweeping claims and fuzzy terms are oversimplified, not simple.

You claim the office of presidency changes people because Obama said so. So Trump won't do much damage. I say Obama's point only only applies to people who know what they are doing and have reasonably good judgment already. That's not trump.

And there are fewer checks on presidential power in  the foreign policy realm than anywhere else. Trumps' combination of ignorance and authoritarian impulsiveness will do more damage there in the short term, and more quickly.

So you posit some vague entity called "career staffers" who will check the crazy. They "really" determine foreign policy, you say.

I have no idea what this claim could be based on; hence I asked who your "staffers" are; they can't be White house. And you haven't "explained twice" who they are.

You may be referring to career foreign service officers and specialists, and other civil servants at the State Department--the people who will still be there when  the "career staffers" who came in with Obama's appointees are gone.  If so then  you are just wrong; those people don't and won't determine foreign policy. Cheney, Wolfowitz and Perle certainly paid them no note during the Bush administration's foreign policy fiascoes.

Trump is picking a staff and cabinet to fit his authoritarian mold.  Many are angry misfits and outsiders who will pick the same for their staff. The most aggressive of the Bush team are in the mix as well, like Bolton. Outside of leaks and resignations, I don't see any checks here at all.
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so much for draining the swamp - Griever - 11-11-2016, 09:59 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 01:06 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 12:38 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 01:08 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 05:13 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 06:57 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 07:56 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 09:52 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 10:33 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-13-2016, 01:52 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-13-2016, 06:35 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 10:28 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-13-2016, 01:42 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-15-2016, 03:12 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-15-2016, 11:30 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-17-2016, 07:01 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-20-2016, 04:43 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-22-2016, 01:49 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-22-2016, 04:30 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-15-2016, 10:58 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 12:29 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 04:09 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - treee - 11-12-2016, 03:45 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 07:53 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 07:12 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - treee - 11-12-2016, 08:21 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 08:33 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - treee - 11-12-2016, 08:36 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-12-2016, 08:31 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-15-2016, 03:40 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-15-2016, 10:32 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-17-2016, 06:07 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-19-2016, 02:53 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-22-2016, 02:27 AM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-17-2016, 06:26 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-17-2016, 05:56 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-15-2016, 09:50 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-17-2016, 06:38 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-17-2016, 05:46 PM
RE: so much for draining the swamp - Dill - 11-17-2016, 07:16 PM
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