so much for draining the swamp

[BmorePat87]

(11-20-2016, 02:42 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Yes, absolutely.

If you're not a moron, when you depose a leader then you are building a nation.  Are you still confused?

I would say 90% of the time, in practice, the former leads to the latter, but if you invade and are helping a rebelling force already established within the nation, you are not necessarily nation building. I think not being involved in the actual structuring of the constitution and government is key in it not being nation building.



HOWEVER..., devil's advocate, one can then argue that providing the means for deposing of the former government is an indirect form of being involved in the actual structuring of the new government.