And they try again...

[*bfine32*]

(01-23-2017, 04:07 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You could have stopped after, "Yep."  Human gametes are already human life. They are alive. They are human. The difference between a single celled gamete and a single celled zygote is the ploidy. 

Human gametes are alive. If the human gametes are already alive how is life created at fertilization if life is a prerequisite for fertilization to occur?  In order for fertilization to occur, gametogenesis has to happen beforehand in order to produce to living gametes. If both gametes aren't already alive fertilization can't occur to "create" life.  Life has to be present for gametogenesis to occur. 

It is the classic chicken and egg paradox. We have kicked this can down the road because you ignore the science as you like to say. Without gametogenesis there is no fertilization. I guess that means the Church and State need to invade your bedroom and make sure every time everyone has sex it is for procreation only. 

bfine32 Wrote:Got it. I'll go with human life begins at conception, you feel free to go with depends.