01-25-2017, 06:10 PM
(01-25-2017, 05:45 PM)hollodero Wrote: As I said, I'd feel very uneasy about that one too. I'm fully pro choice.
Doesn't mean that science clearly refutes the notion that life starts with fertilization. Sorry, to me it just doesn't look that way, to me it seems you just deperately want it to be that way so that the intentions of that bill have no ground to stand on.
Which I'd all be for; and I would have welcomed it had I found valid reason for making this argument in good conscience. But for me the facts just aren't there. Science, at the very best, is torn on that one.
All I can come up with is "It's an ethical, social and political question, not a scientific one".
I completely agree there is no universal consensus. Again, that is my point.
I'm not playing some cutesy game of "gotcha" like some people are worried about. I know why I believe the bill was introduced. I ask why you believe the bill was introduced because I genuinely want to know. If you don't tell me, I'll just be assuming I know why.
As far as the political landscape in Austria, I don't have a clue. I would defer to your expertise. I am familiar with the political landscape here in the U.S. I will tell you, unequivocally, the reason these types of bills get introduced is to chip away at Roe vs. Wade one little chip at a time.
No one here has argued that abortion is murder, but that is the intent of this bill.
Quote:Sanctity of Human Life Act
This bill declares that: (1) the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human and is a person's most fundamental right; (2) each human life begins with fertilization, cloning, or its equivalent, at which time every human has all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood; and (3) Congress, each state, the District of Columbia, and each U.S. territory have the authority to protect all human lives.
Restated, Congress has the authority to protect the life of the fetus beginning at fertilization because the embryo is assigned individual rights at the moment of fertilization.
Roe vs. Wade basically assigns rights on a sliding scale. The rights of the fetus supercede the rights of the woman at the point of viability because the fetus does not have individual rights. Individual rights aren't assigned to an individual until the time of birth. This bill would change that because if passed the zygote would have individual rights, most importantly is the guaranteed right to life which Congress would have the authority to protect=no abortions.
