And they try again...

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(01-25-2017, 06:10 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I completely agree there is no universal consensus.  Again, that is my point.

Seems like it. Although I feel most scientists will more or less use fertilization or a moment very shortly after conception as the starting point. If science even can answer this question and if there is any definite starting point at all, which I would doubt (both intellectually and strategically).

(01-25-2017, 06:10 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I'm not playing some cutesy game of "gotcha" like some people are worried about.

I never guessed. After all we're completely on the same side here, so I never figured this was an act of deliberate liberal on liberal violence or anything :)

(01-25-2017, 06:10 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I know why I believe the bill was introduced.  I ask why you believe the bill was introduced because I genuinely want to know.  If you don't tell me, I'll just be assuming I know why.

Oh, I thought I made that clear already. I fully agree with your worries. I too would think it's probably a first step to outlaw abortion. As I said, I'd feel very uneasy and understand you.

(01-25-2017, 06:10 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Restated, Congress has the authority to protect the life of the fetus beginning at fertilization because the embryo is assigned individual rights at the moment of fertilization.

Roe vs. Wade basically assigns rights on a sliding scale.  The rights of the fetus supercede the rights of the woman at the point of viability because the fetus does not have individual rights.  Individual rights aren't assigned to an individual until the time of birth.  This bill would change that because if passed the zygote would have individual rights, most importantly is the guaranteed right to life which Congress would have the authority to protect=no abortions.

OK, that looks grim.
And the Roe vs. Wade solution seems a bit strange, too. Would that mean abortion, as of now, would be legal just until birth?