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And they try again...
(01-25-2017, 06:35 PM)hollodero Wrote: Seems like it. Although I feel most scientists will more or less use fertilization or a moment very shortly after conception as the starting point. If science even can answer this question and if there is any definite starting point at all, which I would doubt (both intellectually and strategically).

Most, if not all, will agree it is the start of a new individual.  But, my general feeling is most won't go so far as to say fertilization is the start of new life for all of the reasons I have stated.  I've had years of biology including multiple courses in development biology, embyology, and OB/GYN from multiple professors and preceptors.  I didn't come up with this crap on my own.


Quote:I never guessed. After all we're completely on the same side here, so I never figured this was an act of deliberate liberal on liberal violence or anything :)


Oh, I thought I made that clear already. I fully agree with your worries. I too would think it's probably a first step to outlaw abortion. As I said, I'd feel very uneasy and understand you.


OK, that looks grim.
And the Roe vs. Wade solution seems a bit strange, too. Would that mean abortion, as of now, would be legal just until birth?

That's where the issue of viability comes in.  In most cases, abortion is allowed up to the point the embryo is viable.  Once the embryo is viable, the right to life of the embryo supercedes the rights of the woman.  In most cases, abortion after the point of viability (later term abortion) isn't allowed under the law.  But, the law varies from state to state.





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And they try again... - GMDino - 01-22-2017, 06:37 PM
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RE: And they try again... - hollodero - 01-23-2017, 03:17 PM
RE: And they try again... - bfine32 - 01-23-2017, 03:38 PM
RE: And they try again... - Dill - 01-25-2017, 12:00 AM
RE: And they try again... - hollodero - 01-25-2017, 12:45 PM
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RE: And they try again... - michaelsean - 01-25-2017, 03:14 PM
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RE: And they try again... - hollodero - 01-25-2017, 03:41 PM
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