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Goebbels strikes again
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(02-11-2017, 10:55 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Mike Brown wants to win as much as we do, if not more.  He has "stuck with Marvin" because he doesn't make quick decisions out of passion....like the Falcons firing two defensive coaches moments after the Super Bowl.  This is a very intelligent and calculating man.  I believe he didn't fire Marvin because it was one really off year.  A blip on an otherwise positive trajectory.  I don't know if Marvin can ever truly change his stripes and play with the kind of aggression necessary to win a championship, but Mike Brown rightly believes that one year shouldn't take away Marvin's opportunity to finish what he started.   As much as I hate conservative, bad clock management, no in-game adjustment Marv, I and still pulling for the guy to complete the mission.

As far as the day to day operations, he does very little any more...this team is primarily run by Marvin, Katie, and Troy.  And with the exception of this past season, they have put a winning team on the field that has had a legitimate shot every season for five straight years and overcome a troublesome decade and the stigma that went with it.

I simply don't agree that Mike Brown wants to win as much, or more, than the fans do. 

This is an owner who watched Dave Shula go 8-24 (5-11, 3-13) in his first two seasons an decided that performance warranted a 2 year extension.

This is the same owner that tried to talk Bruce Coslet into remaining the HC even though they had lost 25 of their previous 30 games, and Coslet had flat out told him that it wasn't working.

This is a owner that still sounded defiant after firing Dick LeBeau - following a franchise worst 2 win season - insisting that things weren't as bad as fans and the media said they were.

There are plenty of other things I could list, but there's nothing about Mike Brown's actions during his tenure that screams "I want to win more than anyone". I'm sure he likes to win. I'm sure he prefers to win. But...I don't think he has ever had any great 'passion' to win. 

Instead, I think he's been incredibly stubborn in the past, wanting to do things 'his way'...even when the results were painfully obvious that his way wasn't working. Doing it 'his way' certainly seemed more important than the actual results.

This is one area where I've always given Marvin credit. He was able to come in, work closely with Katie and then Duke, in a way that demonstrated to Mike that there was a better way. That eventually led to Marvin gaining more control during negotiations after the 2010 season that led to him re-signing. But even during that process, Mike was very stubborn...to the point where Marvin actually walked away from the table at one point.

Mike's role since 2011 has been more limited, and that's a good thing, but again...nothing from 1991-2010 about Mike Brown - the owner or the GM - conveyed a message of "I want to win more than anyone". At least not in my opinion.
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Goebbels strikes again - McC - 02-09-2017, 07:31 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - GodFather - 02-09-2017, 07:47 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Wes Mantooth - 02-09-2017, 08:08 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - bengalfan74 - 02-09-2017, 08:43 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Shake n Blake - 02-09-2017, 09:09 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Pat5775 - 02-09-2017, 09:07 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Hoofhearted - 02-09-2017, 10:46 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - SHRacerX - 02-10-2017, 07:19 AM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Hoofhearted - 02-10-2017, 03:27 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - BengalHawk62 - 02-10-2017, 04:00 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - JumboTron - 02-10-2017, 04:07 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Hoofhearted - 02-10-2017, 04:27 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - bengalfan74 - 02-10-2017, 07:49 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - SHRacerX - 02-11-2017, 10:55 AM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Hoofhearted - 02-11-2017, 12:17 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Shake n Blake - 02-11-2017, 04:47 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - SHRacerX - 02-12-2017, 02:03 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Shake n Blake - 02-12-2017, 02:07 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Wes Mantooth - 02-11-2017, 05:00 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - SHRacerX - 02-12-2017, 02:32 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Wes Mantooth - 02-11-2017, 05:18 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - SHRacerX - 02-12-2017, 02:06 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Wes Mantooth - 02-11-2017, 05:21 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - SHRacerX - 02-12-2017, 02:19 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - OrlandoBengal - 02-13-2017, 10:49 AM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Sled21 - 02-13-2017, 11:57 AM
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RE: Goebbels strikes again - Wes Mantooth - 02-11-2017, 05:41 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - bengalfan74 - 02-11-2017, 07:47 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Derrick - 02-11-2017, 11:12 PM
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RE: Goebbels strikes again - McC - 02-12-2017, 01:09 PM
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RE: Goebbels strikes again - Bengalholic - 02-12-2017, 04:37 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - SHRacerX - 02-12-2017, 06:13 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Housh - 02-12-2017, 08:04 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Bengalholic - 02-12-2017, 09:03 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Shake n Blake - 02-12-2017, 01:56 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - SHRacerX - 02-12-2017, 02:50 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Hoofhearted - 02-12-2017, 03:15 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Shake n Blake - 02-12-2017, 09:45 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - rfaulk34 - 02-12-2017, 09:56 PM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - SHRacerX - 02-13-2017, 09:26 AM
RE: Goebbels strikes again - Shake n Blake - 02-13-2017, 01:06 PM
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RE: Goebbels strikes again - BengalChris - 02-11-2017, 01:27 AM
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RE: Goebbels strikes again - BengalChris - 02-11-2017, 01:53 AM
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