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Steve Bannon.
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(02-14-2017, 09:37 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Let's compare Hitler to Trump
Hitler: Born in Austria to a failed farmer, relocated to Germany, had no interest in education, served as a Soldier, joined various ideological political parties at a young age, and joined a coup to overtake Moscow
Trump: Native born citizen, went to College and became a business man
Hitler: Frequently denounced Capitalism
Trump: Internationally known Capitalist
Hitler: Rose to power by being a popular figure in his Nation's most powerful Political party
Trump: Rose to power by being hated by both political parties of his Nation
Hitler: Sought “living space” for his people by invading other countries
Trump: Sought a stronger country by expelling folks from other countries
Hitler: A life-long Bachelor
Trump: Married 3 times
Hitler: Rose to power through a life of politics at 44
Trump: Political outsider elected to his first government position at 70
But it is "fair" (use whatever meaning for the word you wish) to compare the two because they both say the same rhetoric that 10s of thousands of Politicians have said throughout the history of politics.
Would it have been fair to compare Obama to Pol Pot because they both wanted change and screwed up medical care to there citizens.

Hitler was a bachelor and Trump was not, so is it really "fair" to point out that both thought they were smarter than the generals, hated liberals, called the press "liars" in toto, wanted to boot out immigrants, secure their borders, and embrace militarism? Yes, since those behaviors suggest a shared mindset--one NOT SHARED by tens of thousands of politicians in liberal democracies.
Does the fact that Hitler rose to power at a younger age than Trump undo the comparison? Why ever would it, since age was not the basis of comparison?

And let's look closely at some of your "contrasting" claims:

Hitler: Rose to power by being a popular figure in his Nation's most powerful Political party
Trump: Rose to power by being hated by both political parties of his Nation

Hitler was hated by many as he rose to power in a MINORITY PARTY in a parliamentary system. (E.g., in the presidential election of 1932, he lost to von Hindenburg, 53% to 37%, though his party finally won a plurality in the Reichstag for the first time.  In the '33 elections his party won 33% plurality. Nazis became a majority only AFTER Hitler was declared "Fuehrer" and other parties were outlawed.) Trump could not have risen to power without the support of millions of people who did NOT hate him--mostly one party, but also some from the other. Both figures were "hated", but they were not elected because they were hated. They were elected because each had a base of enough people who hated liberals and the press and wanted to secure borders and kick out immigrants--people who felt ignored by their government.  And because others were tired of voting.  So it is a false contrast to claim one rose to power by being popular and the other by being hated--both were loved by people who put their country "first" both hated by people who thought them vulgar and a danger to democracy.

Let's check another of your matched sets:

Hitler: Frequently denounced Capitalism
Trump: Internationally known Capitalist

What Hitler denounced was not "capitalism" per se, but "international capitalism", which he associated with Jews, domination by foreign business, and Big Banks--finance capital. What he wanted was a capitalism which served HIS NATION FIRST. I.e., get rid of unequal "free trade" which cost Germans jobs. Make deals that put Germans first. Use tax cuts to get the economy going. Like Mr. Trump, he believed that if you took over another nation by force, then you could take its resources. And eventually that's what he did. And what happened to his buddy Ernst Roehm for denouncing capitalism once the Nazis had won power?--Google "Night of the Long Knives."

So how did Hitler and "capitalism" get along after he was in power? Quite well, apparently. The wealthy capitalists came kissing up to Hitler. Unions were disbanded. The State railroad company (among others) was privatized, and Nazi economists began experimenting with Tariffs and subsidizes and tax breaks for the rich and middle class.
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