Steve Bannon.

[Mike M (the other one)]

(02-13-2017, 05:35 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: What you might be missing from the comparisons that people understanding of the topic are doing is that you are thinking of the end result and comparing what you see in authoritarian regimes with what we see now. What most of the serious and legitimate critiques have been arguing is that the language used, the propaganda, the interactions with the media, the "alternative facts", these things are reminiscent of the early days of authoritarian regimes. What we see from Trump and his administration are behaviors that are exhibited by authoritarian regimes when they gain power.

This is the difference between opinions about the administration and what we can point to using evidence. If you see someone say that Trump and his ilk are fascists or they are authoritarians, that is an opinion. But when someone says that if you compare the behaviors of this administration to administrations that were gaining power to become authoritarian regimes you can see come commonalities and that is concerning, that is something different and instead of it being dismissed because there was a trigger word that caused you to just feel your beliefs are being attacked (something that actually happens when discussing these sorts of things, phrasing matters), it would be good to set down the MAGA glasses and read it with an attempt at objectivity. Not saying it will change your mind, or even that it should, just dismissing it out of hand isn't going to help your understanding.

Let's take a look at this again.
There can be similarities, but at the same time, contrasts, so it doesn't add up correctly.

In order for this to be a Fascist Authoritarian government, we'd need to basically toss out the Parliament. That's never going to happen, so we can never achieve that status that you are talking about.

Plain and Simple, Workplaces are Authoritarian, boss tells you want to do, this is the persona that Trump is, but he also understands the system, laws and obviously tries to follow them, else his "ban" wouldn't have been so complex. He would've simply stated no more Muslims allowed and been done with it.

Reaganism, Thatcherism and now Trumpism, all have many fascist ideas and similarities and are being called Fascism, even though they are operating in a political environment where democratic representation is/was maintained. The original concept has been twisted by rhetorical abuse over time to fit what ever the leader in question is doing that is remotely similar in an effort to politically assassinate them.