Can a QB help an Oline?

[Shake n Blake]

(03-14-2017, 01:23 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Andy seems to be good at seeing a blitz and knowing where to throw the ball, as in throw it to the area vacated by the blitzing player, but when a standard 4 man rush is driving the center back into the pocket...well that is an entirely different issue.

Fair enough. I'd say the performance of any QB is going to suffer when there is constant pressure, and I don't think there's much a QB can do to help when a center and a tackle are getting shoved backwards on a regular basis. The only thing I can think of that would help would be for the QB to go to the owner and ask for a new Center and Tackle.

My point with the blitz numbers was just to show that pressure doesn't cause Dalton to panic, contrary to the popular narratives.

(03-14-2017, 03:38 AM)bengalhoel Wrote: According to Pff in 2015 he had a 112.5 Qb rating against the blitz. You have to pay for last year's info so I couldnt see it but he was great in 2015.

Thank ya.

(03-14-2017, 03:48 AM)Wyche Wrote: Week 1 should have put that narrative to bed....sacked 7 times....366 yds....TD....no TOs.  By the end of the year...he was a bit squirrelly....but damn....who wouldn't be by that point?

Agree completely. That performance would be in my top 5 for Dalton, mainly based on guts and composure. You're also right that he didn't maintain that composure all the way to the end. After the pounding...and with LaFell as his only reliable target...that wasn't surprising.

(03-14-2017, 03:53 AM)Wyche Wrote: 100% agree.  The only time Brady struggles is when you hit him a lot.  Bill knows this....so he doesn't allow it to happen very much.  Brady does elevate no name skill players....but the line is a well oiled....plug and play....machine.  They know how to get it done.

We've seen the affects pressure has on Brady a few times, and it's clear that it knocks the shine off of him. He looked washed up when the Falcons were beating him up in the first half. He was throwing up ducks and looking flustered. Once that energy faded and the rush dissipated, suddenly Tom Terrific re-appeared.

Quote:The_WiseOne

This picture saids it all on how bad it's going to be for Andy next year! I've never seen any QB who can play in so small of a pocket like Andy does on a constant bases. Always has his center driven into his lap and his OTs at his heels on just about every pass play last year someone gets beat. It's amazing that Andy has the stats he did last year that offensive line was that bad! And we've seen what he can do when he has time to throw like he did in the 2015 season!
Build him a great line like what Dallas has and watch him shine. Remember that 2015 Line was just average at best!

Dallas took the Russell Wilson approach with Dak. As in provide an excellent line and run game, and watch the QB flourish.

Speaking of Wilson, his line also fell apart and compare his stats with Dalton's. They had nearly identical seasons. Even running the ball.