03-21-2017, 04:53 PM
(03-21-2017, 04:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: But it is a crime to makes this private company's emails public?
Not making them public, but hacking into the server and taking them is a crime, yes.
(03-21-2017, 04:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Also you would still have the same dynamic of a POTUS with a conflict of interest. Imagine if she were elected, no one was the wiser, and then congress moved to eliminate the 2-party system or to revamp the roles of the RNC and the DNC.
But there is nothing in the Constitution about emoluments (which is what the CoI issue gets into) from the people or organizations in the country. There is, however, a part about it from foreign governments. And let's be honest, every elected official under a party banner owes something to the party. Just, again, it isn't a foreign state.
(03-21-2017, 04:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I think the difference is that one investigation was closed and the other is ongoing. Hard to publish findings.
Like I said the situations are similar. One's degree of outrage is going to be based on which side they like more.
I don't disagree. Just pointing out what I have heard regarding the outrage.
(03-21-2017, 04:37 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I have a question. Does anybody think the leaks had a real bearing on the outcome of the election? I think folks minds were made up given her history of posting on her private server and the deletion of 1,000s of emails after she was told to turn them over.
I've always said she lost the election the moment she called 1/4 of the Nation's voting population deplorable.
Honestly, what lost Clinton the election was her own campaign strategy. There were so many factors at play, but I have said all along, and maintain it up to now, that the WikiLeaks stuff wasn't a big factor. Comey's letter was bigger, but that didn't do it. The deplorables comment, that didn't do it either. It was the simple fact that if you were to ask the average voter what Clinton actually stood for based entirely on her words and actions on the campaign trail, they wouldn't have a clue. You can't excite voters like that, and voters that aren't excited aren't going to go out and vote.
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