Steve Bannon.

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(04-09-2017, 10:10 PM)Dill Wrote: As I have argued elsewhere, it is better to use the term "fake news" to refer to fake news, rather than simply news we don't like. Fake news as a descriptive term originated as a description of sites which were not news sites presenting stories which were utterly fabricated, like the Pizzeria fronting for child sex trafficking.  "Liberal" media are holding this line. Trump, Fox and friends are not.

And I reject your either/or. If it is revealed that Susan Rice noticed a pattern of communication and asked that certain names be unmasked, likely with no idea who they were beforehand, I do not see how she is not doing her job.  She was on OBama's NSC.

It is quite possible that there is neither collusion nor abuse of power. But at the moment, if there is smoke and then more smoke, then I as a citizen want some answers. What were all these Trump functionaries talking to Russians about at a time when the Russians were attacking our election process? 

I am surprised you dismiss all this as "international corporations dealing with many nations."  How many of the Clinton organization met with the Russian Ambassador during the last election cycle? Why is the fact that Carter Paige was regarded as a Russian asset just "bullshit"?  The unstable Flynn was taking money from an undeclared interest in Turkey, and lied to Pence about his conversation with the Russian Ambassador about lifting sanctions. "International corporations" generally do not correctly predict that high level DNC functionaries are "going down."

It is not clear really what you are doubting, or at least the grounds your are doubting. Do you say the Russians never interfered with the US election? Do you say they made no effort to sway the election in favor of Trump? Do you answer both questions in the affirmative, but still say all these connections between Trumpsters and Russia are random, typical communications?

Nothing to see there, but guilt all over Rice . . . somehow?

I would just like to add if Susan Rice knew the names of the people talking to the Russians there would be no need for her to ask for their names and thus no smoking gun for Nunes to leak to the media on behalf of Trump to move the media attention away from from false wire tapping claim and onto the fake news story about Susan Rice which JustWin Baby swallowed hook, line, and sinker. Fish on!