Gun Policy Research

[Dill]

(06-22-2017, 06:28 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: There is no chicken and egg scenario. Stop being 7.6x your population's share of gun murders, and you'll stop being treated like the most dangerous demographic in the country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Obviously Wikipedia needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but for the sake of this point, it has the US listed at 94th in homicide rate. Your linked article maintains that ~48% of the murders are by African American Males, who are ~6.3% of the population (table 1). That means if you removed the numbers from that group of just 6.3% of the population, the US would go from 94th on that list to 142nd. Nobody would be worried about US violence then. Canada is 158th, Finland 159th, France 162nd.

(Going back to the grain of salt, there's some countries you absolutely know aren't reporting all their crime. China at 194th, better than Italy, Germany, Greece.)

Either way, 6.3% of the country single-handedly moved us from average to violent. That's the part you need to be focusing on for a solution. That link you posted plus the chart I posted says if US African American Males were their own country, they would be roughly the 11th most violent country on the planet by murder rate.

I see some problems here, Leonard.

My first question would be who is responsible for the other 52 % of homicides. If you removed that group, the US would drop lower than 94th, wouldn't it?  

Also, I know many black men, none of whom carry guns or belong to gangs. What share of the country's gun murders are they responsible for? They aren't part of the nation's gun violence, but some still treat them as part of the most dangerous demographic in the country.

How do you "know" that China is not reporting all their crime?