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Gun Policy Research
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(06-23-2017, 02:40 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: And this is exactly why they have stifled attempts for gun violence research. You already have all the data you could possibly need to draw a conclusion. It's just that you choose to ignore the obvious conclusion in favor of making excuses for people's choices. Oh it can't be their fault, they're not responsible for choosing to murder people. It's society's fault. Then the gun violence "research" will do what it always has done... ignore the real problems, and attempt to just restrict the law abiding portion of the population who own a gun legally and don't commit crimes.

You're not actually wanting real research, because you've already determined the answer isn't the answer.

Whoa Leonard. You can't talk about "real research" while speaking of "obvious conclusions." When you "know" the conclusion without the research Bels refers to, then you are the one who has already determined the answer isn't the answer.

People don't lobby to prevent research because all the data needed are already gathered.
They prevent research because they sense risk, the obvious isn't so obvious.

You are assuming that people's choices are not researchable, not related to social environment, which may be very different for some demographics than others. People can still be held responsible for murder even if they come from a bad environment. But you cannot change that environment if criminality is only a personal choice.
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Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 06-22-2017, 03:24 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Dill - 06-22-2017, 04:00 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - GMDino - 06-22-2017, 04:16 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 06-22-2017, 04:18 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - TheLeonardLeap - 06-22-2017, 04:25 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - xxlt - 06-24-2017, 07:41 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Benton - 07-03-2017, 12:37 AM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 06-22-2017, 04:33 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - TheLeonardLeap - 06-22-2017, 05:31 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 06-22-2017, 05:50 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - TheLeonardLeap - 06-22-2017, 06:28 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Dill - 06-23-2017, 01:41 AM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 06-22-2017, 08:25 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - SunsetBengal - 06-22-2017, 09:27 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Dill - 06-23-2017, 02:17 AM
RE: Gun Policy Research - TheLeonardLeap - 06-23-2017, 02:40 AM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Dill - 06-23-2017, 03:51 AM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Dill - 06-23-2017, 04:28 AM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Dill - 06-23-2017, 04:44 AM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 06-22-2017, 10:00 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - SunsetBengal - 06-22-2017, 10:08 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 06-22-2017, 11:03 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - SunsetBengal - 06-22-2017, 11:14 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - GMDino - 06-22-2017, 11:20 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - SunsetBengal - 06-22-2017, 11:50 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 06-23-2017, 09:37 AM
RE: Gun Policy Research - michaelsean - 06-23-2017, 10:28 AM
RE: Gun Policy Research - TheLeonardLeap - 06-23-2017, 03:21 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 06-23-2017, 10:37 AM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Millhouse - 06-23-2017, 05:09 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - TheLeonardLeap - 06-23-2017, 05:54 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 06-23-2017, 07:24 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 06-24-2017, 05:30 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - Belsnickel - 07-02-2017, 08:05 PM
RE: Gun Policy Research - GMDino - 07-02-2017, 09:11 PM

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