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Why is religion...
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(07-07-2017, 10:50 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: Why is religion the cause of most wars and the most death and the most suffering in the world?
I read and hear this claim all the time, even though it is completely untrue.
I would just like to know why people make this claim.

Just my two cents--I think wars have many causes. If one wants to understand how they arise, how to end them, or how to prevent them, religion and notions of "greed" and "power" don't have much explanatory power, though they may work in some combination in some cases.

On the other hand, I think that concepts like "identity" and "security" are very helpful. Peaceful people may turn quickly to war for reasons of basic security. If they rally around a religious identity, that does not make their religion the "cause."  When basic security is disrupted, it also tends to disrupt identity, especially where tied to social status. Religion may help repair the damage.

So from a geographical and cultural distance, a group like ISIS, which arose in a security vacuum and is led by former Iraqi military officers who once had high social status and control of their country, may appear to be all about religion, since they call themselves the Islamic State and claim Allah as their ground of legitimacy, or about power if you are skeptical of their sincerity. But neither religion nor greed nor lust for power would have created ISIS had not the US invaded Iraq and Syria had not collapsed. And if ISIS is wiped out, they will simply be replaced by a similar religious movement, so long as the same security conditions remain in Syria and Iraq.

One cannot prevent "religion" or greed or lust for power, but one can construct policies that support rather than undermine the identity and security of people. Post war Europe was able to do that for 45 years (if you don't count colonial wars).
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Why is religion... - Nebuchadnezzar - 07-07-2017, 10:50 PM
RE: Why is religion... - CKwi88 - 07-07-2017, 11:21 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Benton - 07-07-2017, 11:56 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Matt_Crimson - 07-08-2017, 01:57 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Belsnickel - 07-08-2017, 07:42 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Vlad - 07-08-2017, 09:31 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Vlad - 07-08-2017, 09:57 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Belsnickel - 07-08-2017, 10:46 AM
RE: Why is religion... - xxlt - 07-08-2017, 10:51 AM
RE: Why is religion... - xxlt - 07-08-2017, 10:49 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Belsnickel - 07-08-2017, 11:02 AM
RE: Why is religion... - xxlt - 07-08-2017, 11:10 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Beaker - 07-08-2017, 11:35 AM
RE: Why is religion... - xxlt - 07-08-2017, 12:01 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Belsnickel - 07-08-2017, 04:41 PM
RE: Why is religion... - xxlt - 07-09-2017, 10:36 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Dill - 07-09-2017, 12:09 PM
RE: Why is religion... - xxlt - 07-09-2017, 02:22 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Dill - 07-09-2017, 04:20 PM
RE: Why is religion... - xxlt - 07-09-2017, 04:38 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Dill - 07-09-2017, 05:57 PM
RE: Why is religion... - xxlt - 07-09-2017, 11:26 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Matt_Crimson - 07-10-2017, 05:08 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Beaker - 07-10-2017, 05:15 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Matt_Crimson - 07-10-2017, 06:04 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Vas Deferens - 07-10-2017, 10:46 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Dill - 07-10-2017, 07:44 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Matt_Crimson - 07-11-2017, 09:17 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Belsnickel - 07-09-2017, 12:11 PM
RE: Why is religion... - xxlt - 07-09-2017, 02:26 PM
RE: Why is religion... - michaelsean - 07-10-2017, 05:16 PM
RE: Why is religion... - BmorePat87 - 07-10-2017, 07:33 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Bengalzona - 07-10-2017, 11:06 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Dill - 07-10-2017, 11:11 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Bengalzona - 07-11-2017, 01:44 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Nebuchadnezzar - 07-11-2017, 02:19 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Bengalzona - 07-11-2017, 03:08 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Nebuchadnezzar - 07-11-2017, 03:50 AM
RE: Why is religion... - GMDino - 07-11-2017, 08:12 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Matt_Crimson - 07-11-2017, 10:02 AM
RE: Why is religion... - GMDino - 07-11-2017, 10:19 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Matt_Crimson - 07-11-2017, 02:18 PM
RE: Why is religion... - GMDino - 07-11-2017, 02:26 PM
RE: Why is religion... - Beaker - 07-11-2017, 10:32 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Bengalzona - 07-11-2017, 11:40 AM
RE: Why is religion... - Matt_Crimson - 07-12-2017, 01:44 AM

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