Russia and our election

[Dill]

(07-14-2017, 07:05 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Now I don't know if it is 100% truth, since the media so clearly sucks these days, but it was reported that this Dossier was compiled, in part, by paying Russian spies for intel.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand people wanting to get paid had to justify their pay day.

Here's a google search that - holy shit -  took me 10 seconds.  If this is news to you, then, well, you must be intellectually lazy at best and maybe in need of a class on searching google:
https://nypost.com/2017/06/24/inside-the-shadowy-intelligence-firm-behind-the-trump-dossier/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/11/trump-russia-report-opposition-research-john-mccain
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/how-the-explosive-russian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

Maybe get off your ass and out our your bubble and actually start reading the news.

I am quite aware of the so-called Trump dossier.

This is a false equivalence to the Trump jr. scandal on a number of counts.

1. The issue for Junior is whether there was direct "collusion" with the Russian state, directed by Putin, to undermine the US election. Anyone who so colluded would in effect be acting as a Russian agent.

2. The dossier was not a "campaign contribution" from a foreign government interfering in the US election. Compiled by a US firm, it was simply paid opposition research.

3. Your claim was that Hillary supporters "paid Russian spies."  None of your links establishes that, only that Steele contacted some Russian sources--third hand, apparently.  The New York Post article, of course, repeats the word "Hillary" a number of times, refering to "allies" and "supporters" at some distance to both the DNC and Campaign, and it supports the Trump claim the Russian investigation is simply a personal attack on Trump, not a legitimate pursuit of national interest.

With the exception of the NYPost, the reporting of this news is not "sucky."

Final point. I started another thread just to talk about DESIGNED counter-narratives constructed in part by false equivalences systematically posited to match each Trump scandal as it emerges. We are only talking about this AGAIN and here because the WH and Fox are up to their old whataboutery. It was they who proffered the false equivalence on July 10, and you, so ready to believe "both sides do it," bought it.