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Russia and our election
(07-18-2017, 04:43 PM)Dill Wrote: Just a side comment here about the value of sanctions. North Korea is the exception which proves the rule, if anything, because nowhere in the world has any government such tight control over what its population thinks.

Looking elsewhere, we see that sanctions ended Apartheid in South Africa. They also brought Iran to the table for the nuclear deal. Their threat offers some protection to the West Bank and in Gaza as well.

In the case of Russia, the sanctions do have a powerful effect on Russia's economy and they help the pro-democratic forces there.  That is why Putin is working so hard to get them lifted and reduce the US power to impose them with international support.

Okay, then how about Iran? Last I checked they were sanctioned and still testing their ballistic missiles, too... contrary to their agreement.

In fact, the US has been sanctioning...
-Iran since 1979
-North Korea since 1950
-Syria since 1986 (how's it going today, Syria?)
-Sudan since 1993
-Cuba since 1962

I would argue none of those has accomplished anything. Except maybe for the fact all Cubans just drive around badass classic cars now because of it.
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Russia and our election - ballsofsteel - 07-06-2017, 07:11 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Benton - 07-06-2017, 08:14 AM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-06-2017, 09:04 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Vlad - 07-06-2017, 09:07 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-06-2017, 09:38 AM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-06-2017, 09:28 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-06-2017, 10:04 AM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-06-2017, 12:22 PM
RE: Russia and our election - ballsofsteel - 07-06-2017, 06:52 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-06-2017, 09:15 PM
RE: Russia and our election - ballsofsteel - 07-07-2017, 07:22 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-07-2017, 07:42 AM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-07-2017, 08:26 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-07-2017, 10:00 AM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-07-2017, 10:08 AM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-07-2017, 10:18 AM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-07-2017, 10:20 AM
RE: Russia and our election - NATI BENGALS - 07-09-2017, 06:30 AM
RE: Russia and our election - ballsofsteel - 07-09-2017, 09:36 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-09-2017, 12:28 PM
RE: Russia and our election - hollodero - 07-09-2017, 10:40 PM
RE: Russia and our election - JustWinBaby - 07-09-2017, 10:43 PM
RE: Russia and our election - hollodero - 07-09-2017, 11:02 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-10-2017, 04:07 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-10-2017, 05:01 PM
RE: Russia and our election - hollodero - 07-10-2017, 06:52 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-10-2017, 05:22 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-11-2017, 01:30 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-11-2017, 04:33 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-11-2017, 04:38 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-11-2017, 05:07 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-11-2017, 01:34 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-11-2017, 02:08 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Au165 - 07-11-2017, 02:11 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-11-2017, 02:18 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Au165 - 07-11-2017, 02:25 PM
RE: Russia and our election - NATI BENGALS - 07-11-2017, 02:25 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-11-2017, 02:31 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Au165 - 07-11-2017, 02:36 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-11-2017, 03:10 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Au165 - 07-11-2017, 03:15 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-11-2017, 03:19 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Au165 - 07-11-2017, 03:34 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-11-2017, 03:42 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Au165 - 07-11-2017, 04:33 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-11-2017, 04:37 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Au165 - 07-11-2017, 04:50 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-11-2017, 04:54 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Au165 - 07-11-2017, 04:59 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-11-2017, 06:18 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Au165 - 07-12-2017, 12:25 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-12-2017, 02:16 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-11-2017, 02:42 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-11-2017, 04:54 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-11-2017, 05:02 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-11-2017, 05:03 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Au165 - 07-11-2017, 05:08 PM
RE: Russia and our election - ballsofsteel - 07-11-2017, 05:01 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-11-2017, 05:27 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-11-2017, 06:43 PM
RE: Russia and our election - NATI BENGALS - 07-11-2017, 06:49 PM
RE: Russia and our election - JustWinBaby - 07-11-2017, 07:21 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-11-2017, 09:45 PM
RE: Russia and our election - JustWinBaby - 07-13-2017, 03:29 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-13-2017, 02:07 PM
RE: Russia and our election - JustWinBaby - 07-14-2017, 07:05 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-14-2017, 07:12 PM
RE: Russia and our election - JustWinBaby - 07-13-2017, 03:32 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-13-2017, 03:00 PM
RE: Russia and our election - JustWinBaby - 07-14-2017, 07:09 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-14-2017, 06:09 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-11-2017, 07:23 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-11-2017, 07:27 PM
RE: Russia and our election - BmorePat87 - 07-11-2017, 09:10 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-11-2017, 09:18 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-11-2017, 07:25 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-11-2017, 07:51 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-11-2017, 09:00 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-11-2017, 09:31 PM
RE: Russia and our election - NATI BENGALS - 07-11-2017, 10:08 PM
RE: Russia and our election - NATI BENGALS - 07-12-2017, 11:46 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-13-2017, 08:59 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-13-2017, 01:39 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-13-2017, 02:07 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-18-2017, 01:01 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-18-2017, 05:00 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-18-2017, 01:15 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-18-2017, 01:17 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-18-2017, 04:43 PM
RE: Russia and our election - TheLeonardLeap - 07-18-2017, 04:57 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-18-2017, 07:39 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-18-2017, 01:51 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-18-2017, 09:47 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-18-2017, 10:01 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-18-2017, 11:02 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-18-2017, 11:12 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-18-2017, 11:21 PM
RE: Russia and our election - xxlt - 07-19-2017, 09:22 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-19-2017, 12:14 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-18-2017, 11:15 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-18-2017, 11:19 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-19-2017, 09:42 AM
RE: Russia and our election - xxlt - 07-19-2017, 09:54 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Bengalzona - 07-19-2017, 11:56 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-19-2017, 04:19 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-19-2017, 04:59 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-19-2017, 05:40 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-19-2017, 05:45 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-19-2017, 12:17 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-19-2017, 01:26 PM
RE: Russia and our election - hollodero - 07-19-2017, 08:13 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-19-2017, 09:56 PM
RE: Russia and our election - hollodero - 07-19-2017, 10:08 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-19-2017, 10:15 PM
RE: Russia and our election - hollodero - 07-19-2017, 10:26 PM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-19-2017, 11:11 PM
RE: Russia and our election - hollodero - 07-20-2017, 09:04 AM
RE: Russia and our election - michaelsean - 07-20-2017, 09:22 AM
RE: Russia and our election - hollodero - 07-20-2017, 04:11 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-19-2017, 10:51 PM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-21-2017, 10:44 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-21-2017, 07:55 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-21-2017, 10:34 PM
RE: Russia and our election - tigerseye - 07-21-2017, 11:19 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-22-2017, 09:50 AM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-23-2017, 11:55 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Dill - 07-23-2017, 12:41 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-23-2017, 07:34 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-24-2017, 03:32 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-24-2017, 03:53 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-23-2017, 03:58 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-24-2017, 02:10 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-24-2017, 05:08 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-24-2017, 10:31 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-24-2017, 11:27 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-24-2017, 11:41 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-25-2017, 08:55 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-27-2017, 04:28 PM
RE: Russia and our election - hollodero - 07-28-2017, 02:43 AM
RE: Russia and our election - hollodero - 07-29-2017, 09:06 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Belsnickel - 07-29-2017, 10:48 AM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 08-01-2017, 11:13 AM
RE: Russia and our election - Benton - 08-01-2017, 11:32 AM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 08-01-2017, 11:42 AM
RE: Russia and our election - hollodero - 08-01-2017, 11:53 AM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 08-01-2017, 04:59 PM
Putin intimidates Trump - ballsofsteel - 07-06-2017, 07:01 PM
RE: Putin intimidates Trump - Vlad - 07-06-2017, 08:30 PM
RE: Putin intimidates Trump - ballsofsteel - 07-07-2017, 07:16 AM
RE: Putin intimidates Trump - StoneTheCrow - 07-07-2017, 08:19 AM
RE: Russia and our election - ballsofsteel - 07-09-2017, 09:03 AM
RE: Putin intimidates Trump - GMDino - 07-07-2017, 08:24 AM
RE: Putin intimidates Trump - michaelsean - 07-07-2017, 09:01 AM
RE: Putin intimidates Trump - ballsofsteel - 07-07-2017, 04:54 PM
RE: Putin intimidates Trump - GMDino - 07-07-2017, 04:56 PM
RE: Putin intimidates Trump - Dill - 07-08-2017, 10:14 PM
RE: Russia and our election - NATI BENGALS - 07-09-2017, 06:18 AM
RE: Russia and our election - NATI BENGALS - 07-09-2017, 08:21 PM
RE: Russia and our election - BmorePat87 - 07-10-2017, 07:31 PM
RE: Russia and our election - GMDino - 07-10-2017, 09:59 PM
RE: Russia and our election - ballsofsteel - 07-11-2017, 06:37 AM
RE: Russia and our election - BmorePat87 - 07-11-2017, 02:07 PM
RE: Russia and our election - BmorePat87 - 07-11-2017, 01:37 PM
Next up from Don Jr... - xxlt - 07-11-2017, 04:03 PM
RE: Next up from Don Jr... - xxlt - 07-11-2017, 04:08 PM
RE: Next up from Don Jr... - GMDino - 07-11-2017, 04:08 PM
RE: Next up from Don Jr... - xxlt - 07-11-2017, 04:15 PM
RE: Stop all the investigations! - Au165 - 07-11-2017, 05:16 PM

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