Democrats Want Change

[Dill]

(07-16-2017, 10:17 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote:
The way the college scam is set up now, you don't need to be smart to get a degree. You just need to be willing to go into massive debt for a generally useless piece of paper. Go to a trade school or technical school.

Not all work is created equal. 40 hours of "do you want fries with that?" or "Welcome to Walmart, have a nice day." isn't intended for people to support a family on. Get a certification in something and get a better job.

Of course vocational training is the best route for some. And society needs electricians and plumbers and truck drivers.

But it's not really true that you don't need to be smart to get a college degree.

And I add that there is a great difference in the level of difficulty between degrees in physics, computer science and math, on the one hand, and hospitality management and criminology on the other. But pretty much all students face gen ed requirements and must exert some discipline to attend class, write papers, pass exams, etc., even if they take less rigorous majors.

I don't understand why you speak of a "useless piece of paper."  I don't think of higher ed as strictly speaking "vocational"--a liberal education is a valuable end in itself--but doctors, lawyers, and engineers are generally paid well on top of that.