keystone pipeline doesnt have to use american steel

[Belsnickel]

(07-31-2017, 03:27 PM)Vlad Wrote: Actually, I anticipated the response I would get and yours was the one.... flip flops and petty barroom talk from a non-politician. Obamas lies shaped policy and affected lives.

And so did many of Trump's. Denying it is naive.

And Trump became a politician the moment he announced his candidacy. He was a political insider before that because of his contributions to candidates and parties. Stop trying to make him out to be a populist outsider because he is anything but.

(07-31-2017, 03:27 PM)Vlad Wrote: And why no NYT article entitled "OBAMA LIES!"

I don't know, ask them. Maybe because he wasn't as frequent a liar.

(07-31-2017, 03:27 PM)Vlad Wrote: I'm sure you can finally agree that the MSM is liberal biased right?

I would say that the editorial board of the NYT is liberally biased.

(07-31-2017, 03:27 PM)Vlad Wrote: Regardless, my initial point was not debate who's the biggest liar (even though it was Obama), it was to point out liberal hatred...these simpleton knee jerk "Trump is a liar" remarks only because of some agenda that he was unsuccessful at implementing.

Trump is called a liar because he is. Flat out.

(07-31-2017, 03:27 PM)Vlad Wrote: Have fun with 4 pages of this:
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/?page=2
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/?page=2

You should compare scorecard to scorecard. I look at Politicfact a good bit, so I'm familiar enough with it to know what is available on it. But let's compare.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/

Combination of False and Pants on Fire percentages:
Trump: 48%
Obama: 14%

I don't know if you want to try using Politifact to back up your claim that Obama was the bigger liar.