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Antifa: need to know
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(08-17-2017, 11:43 AM)PhilHos Wrote: This is why I get worried everytime I see someone try to claim that "hate speech is not free speech". Uh, yes it is. You don't have to like or agree with the speech, but as long as it's not inciting violence it is protected speech no matter how vile or vulgar it is.

Quite correct, and succinctly put.  Stay tuned for someone who doesn't get it.


(08-17-2017, 11:45 AM)GMDino Wrote: Violence is wrong.

Shouting down and constantly opposing hate speech/Nazis is not.

"Free speech" means the government won't stop you.  Doesn't say anything about your fellow citizen.

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Opposing ideas is fine, "shouting down" is a rather nebulous term.  If that means preventing someone from even speaking, that's not ok, because you can't do that without infringing on someone's rights.  If a speaker you find offensive is speaking in an auditorium and you form a human chain around that building and forcefully prevent people from entering you are using violence.  It also shows how weak you believe your counter argument to be that you fear anyone hearing the speaker you oppose.

Say it with me GMDino, using violence against anyone because you oppose their ideas or viewpoints is wrong, any kind of violence.





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Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 12:22 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-15-2017, 06:34 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 07:59 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-15-2017, 05:29 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Vlad - 08-15-2017, 09:03 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 09:22 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 09:35 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 09:52 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 10:13 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 10:17 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-16-2017, 09:06 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-16-2017, 12:53 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-17-2017, 08:41 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Vlad - 08-15-2017, 10:25 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 10:30 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - jason - 08-15-2017, 10:51 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-15-2017, 11:02 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - tigerseye - 08-15-2017, 03:00 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-15-2017, 04:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 04:20 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-15-2017, 05:31 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-16-2017, 09:54 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 07:02 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 08:48 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 11:16 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-17-2017, 12:13 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-17-2017, 01:38 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-17-2017, 11:22 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 11:43 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 11:45 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-17-2017, 11:51 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 11:56 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 12:05 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 12:14 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 12:21 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 12:30 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-17-2017, 12:53 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 11:55 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 11:57 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 12:11 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 12:14 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 08:00 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-16-2017, 07:55 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-16-2017, 08:06 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Bengalzona - 08-16-2017, 08:14 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 08:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-16-2017, 08:24 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 08:28 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-16-2017, 08:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-16-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 09:07 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 07:32 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 07:40 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 08:03 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 09:03 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-16-2017, 11:17 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-16-2017, 11:23 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-16-2017, 11:59 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-17-2017, 07:15 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 12:28 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - CageTheBengal - 08-17-2017, 12:32 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 12:36 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 02:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 03:09 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 01:04 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 01:40 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 02:54 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 12:47 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-18-2017, 12:52 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 12:58 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-18-2017, 01:15 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:34 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 12:57 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:01 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 01:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:11 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:50 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-17-2017, 02:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 02:42 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-17-2017, 02:52 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Nebuchadnezzar - 08-17-2017, 04:34 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 12:25 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 01:51 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 02:47 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 03:25 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 03:28 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 03:38 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 03:43 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Nebuchadnezzar - 08-18-2017, 04:24 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - Nebuchadnezzar - 08-18-2017, 04:37 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 04:40 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 04:54 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 08:13 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-19-2017, 01:01 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-19-2017, 01:10 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - samhain - 08-19-2017, 06:18 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - jason - 08-18-2017, 05:10 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 03:47 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 03:59 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 04:32 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 05:45 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 06:11 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 06:36 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 07:38 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 07:48 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 07:51 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - THE Bigzoman - 08-19-2017, 08:15 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 08:00 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-18-2017, 08:24 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-19-2017, 06:52 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-19-2017, 09:14 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - THE Bigzoman - 08-19-2017, 09:23 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-19-2017, 09:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - THE Bigzoman - 08-20-2017, 12:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-19-2017, 11:28 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 12:17 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 12:15 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 12:27 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 12:58 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 01:00 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 01:03 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:03 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:13 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 07:38 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:27 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 11:30 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:51 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 08:38 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:01 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - TheLeonardLeap - 08-20-2017, 12:03 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Vlad - 08-20-2017, 09:19 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:28 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:32 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:11 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-20-2017, 03:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-20-2017, 03:57 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-21-2017, 04:50 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-21-2017, 05:21 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-21-2017, 05:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 11:05 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 11:14 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 02:28 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 02:59 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 02:55 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 04:43 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 03:07 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 05:43 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 03:38 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 04:44 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 05:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 06:55 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 08:13 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 09:36 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:41 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 11:21 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-20-2017, 03:49 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-20-2017, 11:35 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 01:31 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 01:37 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 03:50 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 03:57 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Nebuchadnezzar - 08-20-2017, 05:02 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 04:58 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-21-2017, 04:54 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 05:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 06:20 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-22-2017, 02:35 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 02:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-22-2017, 02:51 PM
Antifa:Need to know PartII - Vlad - 08-16-2017, 11:25 AM
RE: Antifa:Need to know PartII - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 11:41 AM
RE: Antifa:Need to know PartII - Dill - 08-16-2017, 01:23 PM

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