Antifa: need to know

[Dill]

(08-16-2017, 03:19 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: So you're equating Antifa with the Allies in WW2?  Or is this your clever way of trying to make that comparison ina  deniable way?

I've never equated them to the KKK or Nazis.  I've equated them to what they are, thugs who use violence against people who's political views they disapprove of.

Tell the guy who got hit in the head with a bike lock for no reason.  As much as he's a troll, Milo is no KKK member or Nazi.  So yeah, they absolutely do seem to use violence on people they disagree with.

Yet another exculpatory simplification couched to cast Antifa in a positive light.  Try as you might you and GMDino just can't stop yourself from trying to excuse the violence coming from left leaning groups.  Say it with me, violence is not an acceptable response to speech, even really vile speech.  I'm not sure why this concept is difficult to grasp.

Making a distinction between motivations is not necessarily "excusing" violence. If there is a law against breaking windows and an antifa member and a KKK member each break a window during a demonstration then each should be arrested and get the same penalty.  Whether one is anti-racist and the other is pro-racist should not matter in court. If an Antifa member hits some with a bicycle lock, that would be assault, and anti-fascism would hardly mitigate punishment.

For analytical/explanatory purposes, individual and group motivations certainly are important and do make a difference. You are using the word "disagree" over generally and ambiguously when you refer to Antifa. They don't use violence on EVERYONE they disagree with. The Allies certainly went to war with the Axis powers because they disagreed with them. But the Allies don't record history that way because they think the specific reasons are what counted. They didn't go to war with EVERYONE they disagreed with--just the fascists.