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Antifa: need to know
(08-21-2017, 10:11 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I sure do, comrade.  Human beings are wired to compete against each other if for no other reason than simple biology.  The strongest, dominant males got the first crack at any food and got the most desirable mates.  The most desirable females were protected by these males and ensured their offspring would have a better chance of survival.  Telling someone who busts their ass all day that the get the exact same share of "X" that the guy who completely half assed it gets is a recipe for a bunch of people who half ass it and is completely at odds with every instinct we possess.  What incentive is their to achieve under communism?  Answer, there is none.  

But, in good news tractor production has reached record levels for the fifth year in a row!

"Simple biology" hardly accounts for the historical diversity of human behavior and social organization.
Offhand I cannot think of any recorded human society in which "the strongest, dominant males got the first crack at any food and the most desirable mates." Maybe you know of some, or at least one, and can cite an example. Maybe you have also heard the term "social Darwinism," which, back in the 19th century, projected an oversimplified conception of "survival of the fittest" into the human social world to justify corporate power and oppose redistribution of wealth.  It was then that people began imagining the stronger caveman taking food and women away from the weaker like animals--all biology, no culture.

I think most contemporary anthropologists and ethnologists would agree that cooperation and sharing offered humans a better chance of survival than a bunch of atomistic individuals competing against each other. Why couldn't one say that letting some people live off the labor of thousands without themselves working, while others who do work starve, is "completely at odds with every instinct we possess"? That claim would square better with current ethnology and social history.

I wonder where you learned that there is "no incentive to achieve" under Communism. Was it in a US public school? You may not remember. Would it be fair to say that at some point you could "see for yourself" that Communism does not work? I am guessing you learned about all the "hard wiring" more recently.
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Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 12:22 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-15-2017, 06:34 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 07:59 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-15-2017, 05:29 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Vlad - 08-15-2017, 09:03 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 09:22 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 09:35 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 09:52 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 10:13 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 10:17 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-16-2017, 09:06 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-16-2017, 12:53 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-17-2017, 08:41 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Vlad - 08-15-2017, 10:25 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 10:30 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - jason - 08-15-2017, 10:51 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-15-2017, 11:02 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - tigerseye - 08-15-2017, 03:00 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-15-2017, 04:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 04:20 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-15-2017, 05:31 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-16-2017, 09:54 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 07:02 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 08:48 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 11:16 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-17-2017, 01:38 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 11:43 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 11:45 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-17-2017, 12:53 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 11:55 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 11:57 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 12:11 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-16-2017, 08:24 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 08:28 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-16-2017, 08:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-16-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 09:07 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 07:32 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 07:40 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 09:03 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-16-2017, 11:17 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 03:09 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 01:04 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 01:40 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 02:54 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 12:47 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-18-2017, 12:52 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 12:58 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-18-2017, 01:15 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:34 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 12:57 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:01 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:11 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-17-2017, 02:39 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 03:47 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 03:59 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 04:32 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 05:45 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 06:11 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 06:36 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 07:38 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 07:51 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - THE Bigzoman - 08-19-2017, 08:15 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 08:00 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-18-2017, 08:24 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-19-2017, 06:52 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - THE Bigzoman - 08-19-2017, 09:23 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - THE Bigzoman - 08-20-2017, 12:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-19-2017, 11:28 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 12:17 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 12:15 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:13 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 07:38 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:27 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 11:30 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:51 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 08:38 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:01 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - TheLeonardLeap - 08-20-2017, 12:03 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Vlad - 08-20-2017, 09:19 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:28 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:32 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:11 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-20-2017, 03:33 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-21-2017, 04:50 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-21-2017, 05:21 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-21-2017, 05:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 11:05 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 11:14 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 02:28 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 02:59 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 02:55 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 04:43 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 03:07 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 05:43 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 03:38 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 04:44 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 05:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 06:55 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 08:13 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 09:36 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:41 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 11:21 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-20-2017, 03:49 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-20-2017, 11:35 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 01:31 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 01:37 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 03:50 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - Nebuchadnezzar - 08-20-2017, 05:02 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 04:58 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-21-2017, 04:54 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 05:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 06:20 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-22-2017, 02:35 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 02:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-22-2017, 02:51 PM
Antifa:Need to know PartII - Vlad - 08-16-2017, 11:25 AM
RE: Antifa:Need to know PartII - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 11:41 AM
RE: Antifa:Need to know PartII - Dill - 08-16-2017, 01:23 PM

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