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Antifa: need to know
(08-22-2017, 03:16 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: They sure as hell were more powerful than them.

They sure as hell weren't more powerful than them.

Ahh, so they hold power.  I guess when you focus solely on my points about physical or intellectual gifts you chose to ignore my points about temporal power.  I suppose I'd be confused as well I only attempted to understand a fraction of the argument being made.

You didn't make any points about "temporal power" until I questioned the biologism behind your claim that anti-Communism is hard-wired in human nature.

If "temporal power" turns out to be the kind of power created by social organization and cooperation, then it undoes the explanatory power of your claims human nature is "hard wired." 

It's not biology which allows a physically weak Roman to make four strong Greeks to carry him about in a sedan chair.  Would that Roman's slave girls be attracted to him because he was "powerful" and "ensured their offspring would have a better chance of survival"?

Do women ever choose mates for reasons unrelated to power, beauty and "offspring" or are they pretty much trapped in all that hard wiring? 

People often believe that the form of social organization they grew up in is "natural," with social roles based upon natural distinctions between people.  Those who believe they benefit from existing social organization tend to want to further that belief. "You can't change nature." 

Once the distinction between aristocrats and commoners was "natural."  Then some people decided it wasn't. After several revolutions and years of public education, few people believe that distinction is natural any more. Once the power of whites over blacks was assumed to result from natural superiority. Then some people decided the superiority wasn't natural. We are still sorting that one out.  In one culture it is natural for men to work in the fields. In another, field work is women's work.

It is difficult to argue against Communism without positing some "natural' division of labor, or of the fruits of labor.  One usually proceeds by imagining a workplace constructed by capitalist relations of productions based upon some conception of "fair wages."  Lazy workers get paid the same as hard workers. Every capitalist can see that is unfair. And that is why no other system but capitalism could work--inside capitalist relations of production.  
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Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 12:22 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-15-2017, 06:34 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 07:59 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-15-2017, 05:29 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Vlad - 08-15-2017, 09:03 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 09:22 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 09:35 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 09:52 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-15-2017, 10:13 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 10:17 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-16-2017, 09:06 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-16-2017, 12:53 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-17-2017, 08:41 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Vlad - 08-15-2017, 10:25 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 10:30 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - jason - 08-15-2017, 10:51 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-15-2017, 11:02 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - tigerseye - 08-15-2017, 03:00 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-15-2017, 04:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-15-2017, 04:20 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-15-2017, 05:31 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-16-2017, 09:54 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 07:02 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 08:48 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 11:16 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-17-2017, 12:13 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-17-2017, 01:38 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-17-2017, 11:22 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 11:43 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 11:45 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-17-2017, 12:53 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 11:55 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-17-2017, 11:57 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 08:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-16-2017, 08:24 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 08:28 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-16-2017, 08:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-16-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 09:07 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 07:32 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 07:40 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 08:03 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - NATI BENGALS - 08-16-2017, 09:03 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-16-2017, 11:17 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-16-2017, 11:23 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-16-2017, 11:27 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 02:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-17-2017, 03:09 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 01:04 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 01:40 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 02:54 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 12:47 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-18-2017, 12:52 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 12:58 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Benton - 08-18-2017, 01:15 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:34 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 12:57 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:01 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:11 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 01:50 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-17-2017, 02:39 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 03:25 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 03:38 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - Nebuchadnezzar - 08-18-2017, 04:24 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - PhilHos - 08-18-2017, 03:47 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-18-2017, 03:59 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 05:45 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 06:11 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 06:36 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 07:38 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 07:48 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-18-2017, 07:51 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - THE Bigzoman - 08-19-2017, 08:15 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-18-2017, 08:00 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - SunsetBengal - 08-18-2017, 08:24 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-19-2017, 06:52 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-19-2017, 09:14 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - THE Bigzoman - 08-19-2017, 09:23 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - THE Bigzoman - 08-20-2017, 12:12 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-19-2017, 11:28 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 12:17 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 12:15 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:03 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:13 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 07:38 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:27 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 11:30 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:51 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 08:38 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:01 AM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - Vlad - 08-20-2017, 09:19 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:28 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:32 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:11 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-20-2017, 03:33 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-21-2017, 04:50 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-21-2017, 05:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 11:05 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 11:14 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 02:28 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 02:59 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 02:55 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 04:43 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 03:07 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 05:43 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 03:38 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 04:44 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 05:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 06:55 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-22-2017, 08:13 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 09:36 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-20-2017, 09:41 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 11:21 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-20-2017, 03:49 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - ballsofsteel - 08-20-2017, 11:35 AM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 01:31 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 01:37 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 03:50 PM
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RE: Antifa: need to know - Nebuchadnezzar - 08-20-2017, 05:02 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 04:58 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Dill - 08-21-2017, 04:54 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - Belsnickel - 08-20-2017, 05:33 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-20-2017, 06:20 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-22-2017, 02:35 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - GMDino - 08-22-2017, 02:39 PM
RE: Antifa: need to know - StLucieBengal - 08-22-2017, 02:51 PM
Antifa:Need to know PartII - Vlad - 08-16-2017, 11:25 AM
RE: Antifa:Need to know PartII - GMDino - 08-16-2017, 11:41 AM
RE: Antifa:Need to know PartII - Dill - 08-16-2017, 01:23 PM

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