Rubio: Life begins at conception

[fredtoast]

(08-12-2015, 11:37 AM)GMDino Wrote: Exactly.  However the law says is a woman's right to choose and the fetus does not have those rights.

This.  People who act like abortion laws interfere with the rights of a fetus refuse to acknowledge that outlawing abortion interferes with the rights of the mother.

So the whole discussion is not about "when does life begin".  The discussion is about "when does a fetus become an individual that deserves individual rights".  The court has rules that since a fetus can not survive as an individual outside of the mother until the third trimester then it is not entitled to individual rights that would interfere with those of the mother.

People can claim that a fertilized egg is a individual human all they want, but as long as it is impossible for that fetus to survive as an individual separate and apart from the mother it has no individual rights that would supersede those of the mother.

But it is an argument that has no end.  The people who claim that a fertilized egg is a human will never change their mind.  There is no possible argument to get them to think anything differently.  And they think it is impossible for anyone else to have different beliefs than them.