Ken Zampese.....

[Shake n Blake]

(09-15-2017, 01:58 AM)Pat5775 Wrote: He definitely wasn't the issue then, but now? I'm not so sure... I mean, he looks bad. He looks really, really bad. Maybe he got David Carr'd behind this offensive line? Maybe he has a brutal case of the yips? Who knows... But he doesn't seem like the same QB from a few years ago. 

For the record, I'm not done with Andy yet. I'd much rather Marv and Zampese go before him.

Definitely crossed my mind that Dalton has been ruined. That wobbler he threw on the run was a laser the last couple years. He's reverted back to poor pocket awareness and not setting his feet. Problems he had very early in his career (first couple years).

He's taking a beating though. Carson looked rough after the shellacking he took in 2008 and that was only 4 games + preseason. This may come as a shock to some, but o line play is important to QBs. Not only are there no holes for the run game (our trio combined for 20-63-0 tonight), plays have zero time to develop. Dalton can't find any rhythm because he's having to improvise too often. How many times did he have to scramble away from pressure and make an unscripted play tonight?

It's just not a formula for offensive (or QB) success. No run game, long 3rd downs, steady pressure leasing to broken/unscripted plays, etc. The offense is a mess and the main culprit is the line. The secondary culprit is Zampese for not doing more to mask it. Dalton shares some blame, but it's miniscule compared to these other factors.

(09-15-2017, 02:08 AM)TKUHL Wrote: Oh Yea F*&K Zamp.

Here's the problem. I wanted AJ McCarron in there at halftime too but he's not the answer behind this line. Dalton has sucked ass, but this line has him screwed up. When he has time he dosent in his mind and he's freakin. He's not going threw his reads, he drops back, looks at the line then stares down the receiver. Another thing he's doing is trying Not to throw an int instead of making a completion.

Ask yourself, Will McCarron play better behind this line? prob. not.

Would this Offense have a freaking TD at least if Hue was here? I think we would be 2-0 He would mask the line woes with play calling and scheming. This Offense is 50% Zamp  45% Oline 5% Dalton at this point. Our RB's even suck. So yea Dalton has sucked but its the result of other parks of this shit machine not performing at a NFL level.

This is about where I'm at. Go ahead and throw Mac out there, so that talk can be smacked down with a vengeance. Honestly though, if I'm Mac, I want to stay on the bench and keep my stock up. Why be a part of this mess?

(09-15-2017, 02:29 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: That was 2 years ago right? Right when dalton had this offense at a top 5 offense and In MVP consideration to below .500

Since the 8-0 start, the Bengals have 10 wins in 27 games. 

I don't even want to know what the red zone numbers are over the last 18.