Schumer: Trump and GOP agree to protect DACA w/o funding the Wall

[GMDino]

(09-17-2017, 11:25 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Nothing has stopped them as adults to get legal.  The fact is they do not want to be legal unless it's just given to them.   Given to them for just having a family who doesn't care about the laws of the land

(09-17-2017, 11:01 AM)GMDino Wrote: Sure they do...they were brought here illegally.

That makes it harder to get into the system to become legal.  Thus: DACA.

Something that allows them to get into "a" system where they report, pay, and have to stay free of criminal activity AND give back (jobs/military service) in the hops that they will get a chance to become full citizens.

Focusing on the age ignores that they didn't come here at those ages but were brought here.

(09-17-2017, 11:03 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: You say they "just refused" to get themselves right, but this is ignoring that these people may not be fluent in the language spoken where their parents came from, they aren't going to fit in culturally (something you home spoken about many times), they may not have a status as a citizen of the country of their birth, they may not have any way to navigate the systems in that country, and I could go on and on and on. However, as this has already been pointed out several times in this thread, I know listing all of the reasons why this isn't just a "they refused to do so" is a disingenuous attack on DACA recipients and comparing their experiences to that of people like your wife that grew up in a different country and came here as an adult is inequitable will fall on deaf ears, so to speak.

(09-17-2017, 11:25 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Nothing has stopped them as adults to get legal.  The fact is they do not want to be legal unless it's just given to them.   Given to them for just having a family who doesn't care about the laws of the land

What is being displayed either a willfully ignorant "take" on the situation and DACA or just the kind of low educated voted Trump loves.

Flip a coin.